Great troll thread

 

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if americans are in harms way then we have the moral impetus to act. You can argue that americans shouldn't have been in korea but that's politics.

 

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I'm not really debating whether nukes were justified (in Japan or Korea). We've had that talk here before and it never goes anywhere.


I do find it funny how many people here are adamant that America never would have nuked anyone else, though. Even though we were clearly prepared to three times in a war where our nation was never seriously in any danger.


Nuclear weapons didn't become something that was unacceptable to use until other people got them. This just historical fact.

Nukes should always be a strategic consideration. I think it would be stupid if they were not. That's kind of the point in having them. People who think they are one hundred percent deterrence must not understand why they are deterrents.

 

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Nukes were very much on the list of "acceptable military weapons" right up until other countries got them. Then they got put on the "unacceptable" list except when used to respond to nukes themselves.


America is the only country in the world that has definitely demonstrated it has no moral problem with using nuclear weapons.

I heard someone in gov't say just in the last decade or so that EVERY military option was on the table when american servicemen hit the ground. And they were asked specifically about tactical nukes.

 

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So your rebuttal is that we're still happy to use nukes? I'm not sure that really refutes the notion that every country has a perfectly logical reason to want nukes as an insurance policy against invasion. But ok.


The bolded bit is also kinda a Paulg move.

Americans are a brutish uneducated warlike people.. I mean savages basically.

 

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liar Liar pants on fire

Battle of Okinawa
1 April – 21 June 1945
The battle of Okinawa proved to be the bloodiest battle of the Pacific War.
U.S. losses were over 62,000 casualties of whom over 12,500 were killed or missing. This made the battle the bloodiest that U.S. forces experienced in the Pacific war. Several thousand servicemen who died indirectly (from wounds and other causes) at a later date are not included in the total.

there are tons of sites with this info.

 

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That's specifically what he was asked. I don't know what the reporter was thinking. But you seemed to be saying the official american position was we would never use nukes now. Clearly that is not our official position.

I didn't read the thread, but obviously this is just another strawman where you say "EVERYONE SAYS" whatever and I don't know anyone that actually says it. I find those as tiresome now as I always have.

 

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