Japan deserved it



But I do think there were better possible options at the time obviously but it's easy to say that now then during. I think Iran isn't trying to get nukes, and if they are it is for their own defense not to hook up their "terrorist" friends to go on a infidel rampage

 

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Fair enough. I should have said not a serious threat to America any more. The Japanese army in Korea and China was still being rolled up like a carpet by the soviets and chinese and I'm sure plenty of people died in that process.

That was 65,000 American casualties you gawd damn revisionist wanna-be.


There is one reason and one reason only we dropped nukes on Japan... because there is no way in HELL we were going to ask our people to take those kinds of losses any longer. To do so when you don't have to would have been criminal.

 

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"Ifs" like "if the chinese use aircraft." What an if that is!


Truman also apparently approved the use of nuclear weapons several times after MacArthur left. Once in October 1951, and again in 1953.


It is absurd to think that use of nukes was off the table in Korea or that MacArthur was some lone crank and no one else thought nukes were justified.

word of warning "people die in war"

67 Japanese Cities Firebombed in World War II using napalm -- a jellied gasoline

http://www.ditext.com/japan/napalm.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most likely 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. "This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture."[35] According to Rummel, in China alone, during 1937–45, approximately 3.9 million Chinese were killed, mostly civilians, as a direct result of the Japanese operations and 10.2 million in the course of the war.[36] The most infamous incident during this period was the Nanking Massacre of 1937–38, when, according to the findings of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the Japanese Army massacred as many as 300,000 civilians and prisoners of war


According to GlobalSecurity.org, the experiments carried out by Unit 731 alone caused 3,000 deaths.[46] Furthermore, according to the 2002 International Symposium on the Crimes of Bacteriological Warfare, the number of people killed by the Imperial Japanese Army germ warfare and human experiments is around 580,000.[47] According to other sources, "tens of thousands, and perhaps as many as 400,000, Chinese died of bubonic plague, cholera, anthrax and other diseases...", resulting from the use of biological warfare.[


You're a Bastard no You're a Bastard no You're a Bastard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnIR-7HsDAw

 

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Yuki, your opinions based on emotion are not facts and that applies to everyone. You're not even pursuing your own line of argument in a factual manner.

 

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Where do you get that from? That seems absurd. Unless you're counting stubbed toes as casualties. There were about 1,000,000 American dead and wounded in the whole of WW2. You're really saying 5% of all casualties happened in July 1945?

Maybe the Japanese are the only people that ever REALLY needed nuking.

That nuke saved possibly millions of lives.

 

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I should have amended that to say fundamentalist religious people are not sane people. I know a great many sane religious people. Every fundie I've come across in the news or in my personal life is not someone I want to be around or near and question their sanity. You are a fundie.

 

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The joint chiefs of staff and/or truman authorized nukes in korea on three occasions. Despite the korean war never being a conflict where there was any real risk to america itself.


The idea that America wouldn't have nuked somebody in the last 60 years without the threat of soviet counter-nukes is absurd.


If you want to continue to say "no u!" based on your emotional reaction feel free. But I don't think "you're just being emotional!" is all that effective a response when your own argument is "america wouldn't do that! because! even though we almost did!"