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bstulic  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-7-26 04:55:00
__Bonk__ posted:

They thought we had way more bombs and they could clearly see they were defeated.

They wanted an honorable way out. Because of the experiences in World War 1 the Allies decided that unconditional surrender was the only option. This was pushed by FDR

Its a shame FDR didnt live longer.





Still, I don't see why they quit after 200k dead, if they were ready to lose 20 millions

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
bstulic posted:

I really don't get it...why they surrendered after two bombs?



The answer the U.S. received from the Japanese command about the nuking of Hiroshima was silence. (1st bomb)

Why? a rational person asks. Why, after the devastation wreaked on the city and its inhabitants, didn't the Japanese concede that the atomic bomb was the game changer?

The Japanese command was not comprised of a bunch of nuts. These were sane and smart war planners.

For all the crazy rhetoric of Japanese propaganda they knew the truth as much as the U.S. command did.

The Pacific theater of war wasn't the European one. They'd forced the us into taking unacceptably high losses for the victories on Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and now the United States was fast running out of young men to send into the kind of battles the we had seen only twice in Europe against the Nazis.

The Japanese planners were reasonably assured they could fight the United States to a standoff in the Pacific. Then along came the bombing of Hiroshima. It was completely off the grid, although the we had warned that we had developed a superweapon and were willing to use it.

Yet the silence in the wake of the Hiroshima bombing suggests the Japanese command thought the U.S. side was bluffing. That they'd shot their full load of the new weapon.

If that's how the Japanese were thinking, three days later they learned they were wrong.

Perhaps, when a third A-bomb didn't fall, Japan's war planners again put themselves in the place of their U.S. counterparts and gauged what the Americans would do if they had more than two nuclear weapons.

They would save the rest for Kyushu and Honshu to use as a clearing operation for the U.S. assault.

In that event it really would be game over, and the Japanese would have nothing to show for it except the very inglorious spectacle of being roasted alive.

If that's indeed how they thought, they guessed right that time. The U.S. had at least seven more A-bombs, which were intended to clear the way for Operation Downfall.

In any event, after Nagasaki the Japanese knew it was open to question as to how many A-bombs the U.S. had in its arsenal. Five days later the Japanese surrendered unconditionally.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
Well the nuking was a clear sign of military superiority. There was no hope for them and this was a reality. There was no hope for them if the US had no nukes either. The US AND Russia were going to attack Japan from both sides.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
The thing with nuking Japanese is that a couple hours later you want to nuke them again.

 

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GrymmDAOC  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-6 13:04:16
The Japanese were hoping that they could basically force the USA to give them better terms. They knew they could not win, but they wanted the Americans to think that the butchers bill would be so high, the americans would come to terms.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
Unit 731 - enough said.
__Bonk__  5 stars
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Dont mess with the US. Seriously

 

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YouMightSeeMe  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-2-27 19:08:13
NuEM posted:

The first country to develop nukes used them the very moment they were available and stopped using them as soon as other countries had them, too. Fact.



And if other countries weren't able to develop them they would have dropped a lot more. Also fact.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Clear sign that the other countries in the world didnt know who the hell they were dealing with. Dumb beyond belief. Little Germany taking on two countries twice its size. Dumb

Same with Japan. In a war of attrition with a bigger country with more resources the smaller country always loses

 

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