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Z-Elder posted:
for liberals, morality is largely a matter of three values: caring for the weak, fairness and liberty. Conservatives share those concerns (although they think of fairness and liberty differently) and add three others: loyalty, respect for authority and sanctity.
In his research, Haidt and his colleagues refer to the latter three values as “binding valuesâ€, as they bind together people into larger groups.
These foundations are Ingroup/loyalty (supporting moral obligations of patriotism and “us vs. them†thinking); Authority/respect (including concerns about social order and the importance of traditions and role-based duties in maintaining that order) and Purity/sanctity (including concerns about treating the body as a temple and living in a higher, more “divine†way, versus a baser, more carnal way).
 So when starting their "research" they basically define RWNs as higher forms of life and then find that progressives are deficient!
And of course Fisted drags his knuckles up to the material and gulps their Kool Aid without understanding the words he reads.
Clearly you understand conservative far better than those who created this study; a center liberal by the way.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Fist you remind me of that teenager that is about to do the wrong thing and no matter what you say to that teenager as a parent they do what they want to do. They don't listen. They think they have ALL the answers.
I always am amused when LWNs tell RWNs what they are about and you get upset when they do, but you have NO problem doing the same exact thing and then get upset again.
You don't see what you are doing. You don't even see your own hypocrisy.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
They have started to study how liberals and conservative perceive each other. The finding was not a shock to conservatives and generated outrage with liberals. It seems that conservatives are very good at perceiving the truth about liberals, or at least predicting the liberal response to an issue. Liberals on the other hand are almost always wrong about what conservatives think and feel about an issue. In other worse one side believes in facts and the other in stereotypes.
Ok, chief.
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Conservatives are all assholes. Lets try to have an honest debate about it without wallowing in the mud.
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Sezyrrith Posts: 257
Registered: 2003-7-13 05:04:05
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I read this and this word sprang instantly to mind, "deranged". As a liberal you believe what you want to believe and no amount of facts will ever change that. Hang the White-Hispanic, no need to study the evidence. Perhaps I’m wrong but you could never prove it by the liberal posts.
You know what I see, when I read nearly every one of your posts?
Fisted Puma posted:
Anyone who disagrees with me is a liberal, and therefore a liar and scumbag.
You're not in it to debate. You start out in the mud, as stated above, with an insult. Then you get all excited when someone responds in kind.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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Why lie and slander people. Puma is right
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Date Posted:
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I’m not saying Tych2 is wrong. In fact he is 100% correct. I’m the conservative version of a liberal or at least use liberal tactics against them. All I did was explain how I gave up years ago and decided this was a lot more fun than trying to reason with unreasonable people. That is not an excuse, it is my reason for using liberal tactics. My hope was that seeing me use their tactics would make them wake up to what they were doing. Again, unreasoned hope on my part. After that it just became habit.
This study shows one of the reason liberals are the way they are. In their eyes conservatives really do hate the poor and love the rich. We understand their ignorance of the issues, and that down they really don’t think their policy’s cause misery and death. We just don’t understand why they stick to them after they have done nothing but cause misery and death. They are not evil people, but in the long run intent does not matter to the people they harm.
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There are three kind of liberals;
Stupid, ignorant or evil
The result is always evil but the intent is not always evil. Not that it makes much difference in the long run.
No one here is exactly as they seem. - G'Kar
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Sezyrrith Posts: 257
Registered: 2003-7-13 05:04:05
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I’m not saying Tych2 is wrong. In fact he is 100% correct. I’m the conservative version of a liberal or at least use liberal tactics against them. All I did was explain how I gave up years ago and decided this was a lot more fun than trying to reason with unreasonable people. That is not an excuse, it is my reason for using liberal tactics. My hope was that seeing me use their tactics would make them wake up to what they were doing. Again, unreasoned hope on my part. After that it just became habit.
This study shows one of the reason liberals are the way they are. In their eyes conservatives really do hate the poor and love the rich. We understand their ignorance of the issues, and that down they really don’t think their policy’s cause misery and death. We just don’t understand why they stick to them after they have done nothing but cause misery and death. They are not evil people, but in the long run intent does not matter to the people they harm.
The issue isn't only your tactics; it's also the fact that as soon as someone disagrees with one of your political viewpoints, you follow a simple chain of assumptions.
Disagrees, therefore liberal.
Liberal, therefore evil, stupid, or ignorant. (your own signature)
Both assumptions are generally baseless, especially the latter. If the 'liberals' you've argued with have ALL been one of the above, and/or have used the 'debate tactics' you listed a few posts earlier in this thread, then they're LWNs, just as corrupt as the RWNs. You take your issues with the most extreme and generalize it to every person you label as 'liberal'.
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SirGarth Title: Moderator
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Registered: 2002-5-17 12:37:09
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well, it's at least better than Fist's old "I'd kill all the liberals if I was king of the world" fantasy...
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Friarspam Posts: 638
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Liberlals act like a brainwashed cult. They're the political version of dogmatic religion.
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