They have started to study how liberals and conservative perceive each other. The finding was not a shock to conservatives and generated outrage with liberals. It seems that conservatives are very good at perceiving the truth about liberals, or at least predicting the liberal response to an issue. Liberals on the other hand are almost always wrong about what conservatives think and feel about an issue. In other worse one side believes in facts and the other in stereotypes.

For the most part liberals and conservatives are not that far apart on the important issues of the day. The divide is caused by the liberals refusal to believe that conservatives are anything but hard hearted monsters; out for profit and nothing else. When people are lied about and slandered they find it a bit hard to turn around and work out the differences between them.

I understand liberals are not all evil. In fact only very small minority is evil, just as a minority of conservatives are evil. Of course the rest of the liberals seem to be puppets of the evil so the results are mostly the same. Perhaps my view is a bit harsh. I’m always looking for evidence that I’m wrong. I beg liberals to prove to me they can debate and issue without walling in the mud. Sadly, all they do in reinforce my belief. Studies like this help explain the problem. They really believe their own propaganda about conservatives.

http://www.redstate.com/bs/2012/03/28/liberals-conservatives-values-and-how-we-perceive-each-other/

Results indicate that people at all points on the political spectrum are at least intuitively aware of the actual differences in moral concerns between liberals and conservatives: they correctly predicted that liberals would care more than conservatives about the two individualizing foundations and that conservatives would care more than liberals about the three binding foundations. The results also confirm previous studies of partisan misperception (e.g. Chambers, et al., 2006) by showing that, in general, people overestimate how dramatically liberals and conservatives differ. Remarkably, people even morally stereotype their own ingroup, with liberals overestimating liberals’ strong individualizing concerns and underestimating liberals’ weak binding concerns, and conservatives exaggerating conservatives’ moral concerns in the opposite directions.

Our results go beyond previous studies, however, in finding and explaining an otherwise puzzling result: liberals were the least accurate. We presented three competing hypotheses about accuracy: 1) We found no support for the hypothesis that liberals would be most accurate; liberals were the least accurate about conservatives and about liberals. The largest inaccuracies were in liberals’ underestimations of conservatives’ Harm and Fairness concerns, and liberals further exaggerated the political differences by overestimating their own such concerns. 2) We found some support for the hypothesis that moderates would be most accurate, which they were in the case of the binding foundations. However, and most crucially, partisan inaccuracies were not mirror images of each other. On the contrary, liberals and conservatives both tended to exaggerate their binding foundation differences by underestimating the typical liberal and overestimating the typical conservative. 3) Finally, we found some support for the hypothesis that conservatives would be the most accurate, which they were in the case of the individualizing foundations. In line with Moral Foundations Theory, liberals dramatically underestimated the Harm and Fairness concerns of conservatives.

 

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Example one. Laugh instead of trying to prove me wrong. You'll have to go back a few years, to the point where I gave up trying to talk sense to liberals. Never mind, a liberal would never brother to do that. Instead they are the other ignorant fools will play the mocking game, something they are much better at than trying to dig out the facts.

 

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Fist for someone to prove you wrong they have to believe what you say has merit. They have to put vaule in what you are saying. I am willing to bet perhaps one or two will try and prove you wrong for some reason or another,but most probably don't believe what you say has any merit or value so they aren't going to do it.

Others (like me) don't see a point in trying to prove you wrong. What would I gain by it?

 

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I had such high hopes for this thread.

 

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for liberals, morality is largely a matter of three values: caring for the weak, fairness and liberty. Conservatives share those concerns (although they think of fairness and liberty differently) and add three others: loyalty, respect for authority and sanctity.

In his research, Haidt and his colleagues refer to the latter three values as “binding values”, as they bind together people into larger groups.


These foundations are Ingroup/loyalty (supporting moral obligations of patriotism and “us vs. them” thinking); Authority/respect (including concerns about social order and the importance of traditions and role-based duties in maintaining that order) and Purity/sanctity (including concerns about treating the body as a temple and living in a higher, more “divine” way, versus a baser, more carnal way).


So when starting their "research" they basically define RWNs as higher forms of life and then find that progressives are deficient!
And of course Fisted drags his knuckles up to the material and gulps their Kool Aid without understanding the words he reads.

 

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There was a time a few years ago when all I posted was about the issues. Liberals prove to me that they are only her to troll, belittle, slander, lie and tell whatever story is currently on the liberal propaganda train. I gave up. I admit that I mostly post today using liberal tactics. I still use facts, unlike them, but my tone is pure liberal. They hate me and I hate them, so be it.

Many conservatives are still in the, "They are mistaken but at base they are good people. They will understand if I explain it to them." Believe me, it is a waste of time. If you want to talk over the issues you need to find someplace else to do it.

I would like to point out that none of the posters have posted about the issue of liberals being mostly wrong about conservatives, but conservatives being mostly right about liberals. Those are the facts. As I said, I don't expect liberals here to believe or even understand the facts. It is who they are. Of course when the President of the United States is out there lying about the issues it is hard to blame them. Saying one thing and doing another is always forgiven by liberals when done by a liberal, it is just who they are.

 

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This.

Fist, you start your arguments wallowing in the mud. are you honestly surprised when people don't want to follow you down there?

 

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I read this and this word sprang instantly to mind, "deranged". As a liberal you believe what you want to believe and no amount of facts will ever change that. Hang the White-Hispanic, no need to study the evidence. Perhaps I’m wrong but you could never prove it by the liberal posts.

Conservative; Let's agree to disagree
Liberal; No, you're wrong.

Conservative; I think we should wait for the facts to play out.
Liberal; No, we have to act.

Conservative; that is a good idea but we cannot afford it.
Liberal; you heartless creep, of course we can afford it, just raise taxes.

Conservative; Taxes are good at a point but beyond that point it discourages whatever is taxed, in this case jobs.
Liberal; You just love the rich and hate the poor.

Conservative; Helping people to buy homes they cannot afford is crazy, it will lead to a massive crash.
Liberal; You just hate the poor and don’t want them housed.

Conservative; since the poor is a major part of your voting block it is not a surprise that your policies create more poor.
Liberal; hate monger, every one knows that Bush made everyone poor.

 

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Puma is the voice of reason on this board

 

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