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Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work? [Locked]
redlegOIF Title: Fire for Effect! Posts: 52 Registered: 2005-8-17 14:44:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
Ashmaele posted: I would like to think that this case will finally make the right STFU about judicial activism but Groucho is right, as soon as this one is over and SCOTUS strikes down something they like they'll be bleating in the streets once again.
I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our system of government, usurping both the Legislative and Executive branch, something that was not intended by the Founding Fathers. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets Posts: 1,809 Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
redlegOIF posted:
Ashmaele posted: I would like to think that this case will finally make the right STFU about judicial activism but Groucho is right, as soon as this one is over and SCOTUS strikes down something they like they'll be bleating in the streets once again.
I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our land. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
It's all judicial review, or judicial activism. It all depends on your perspective.
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redlegOIF Title: Fire for Effect! Posts: 52 Registered: 2005-8-17 14:44:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
Ashmaele posted:
redlegOIF posted:
Ashmaele posted: I would like to think that this case will finally make the right STFU about judicial activism but Groucho is right, as soon as this one is over and SCOTUS strikes down something they like they'll be bleating in the streets once again.
I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our land. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
It's all judicial review, or judicial activism. It all depends on your perspective.
Nevermind, I thought maybe someone else was intelligent on this board, I guess not.
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dude, I still pretend to be a girl -CaitlynFairchild
I still can't get over the fact that you said the Cowboys were once a dynasty hahahha -Stangkilla
McCarthy is a dolt, and Green Bay will never win it all with him as the head coach. -Lambeau
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
redlegOIF posted: I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our system of government, usurping both the Legislative and Executive branch, something that was not intended by the Founding Fathers. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
Thank you for your oh-so-fascinating opinion. Now please STFU and go back to ACF.
redlegOIF Title: Fire for Effect! Posts: 52 Registered: 2005-8-17 14:44:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
Yukishiro1 posted:
redlegOIF posted: I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our system of government, usurping both the Legislative and Executive branch, something that was not intended by the Founding Fathers. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
Thank you for your oh-so-fascinating opinion. Now please STFU and go back to ACF.
I think I've found a kool-aid drinker.
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I still can't get over the fact that you said the Cowboys were once a dynasty hahahha -Stangkilla
McCarthy is a dolt, and Green Bay will never win it all with him as the head coach. -Lambeau
Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets Posts: 1,809 Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
Groucho48 posted: Right wingers have been whining about the Courts overruling what elected officials have decided at least since Brown v. Board of Education.
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust Posts: 1,962 Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
BUT IF PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD A SON THAT WAS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, HE WOULD LOOK JUST LIKE THIS.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Groucho48 posted: So, right wingers are whining about Obama's call to rein in judicial activism? Amazing how the right will instantly turn on an issue a millisecond after Obama speaks in favor of it.
I would have thought someone who has a super pac even though he is against them would understand the need to use your opponents tactics to level the playing field.
Which is what Obama is doing and the right is whining about it. Right wingers have been whining about the Courts overruling what elected officials have decided at least since Brown v. Board of Education. Now that Obama is using that argument, they are /outraged that anyone would dare imply the Court was over-reaching.
So it is wrong when republicans use their opponents tactics but it is OK when Obama does it, right, got it, not surprised.
If the right truly believes that judicial activism is, in and of itself, a horrible perversion of the Constitution, they should be against it even if it works in their favor.
If it is just a political tool for them, well, of course, they can say whatever they want. Kind of leaves their supporters, who actually believe they are against judicial activism in the lurch, though.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets Posts: 1,809 Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work?
redlegOIF posted:
Ashmaele posted:
redlegOIF posted:
Ashmaele posted: I would like to think that this case will finally make the right STFU about judicial activism but Groucho is right, as soon as this one is over and SCOTUS strikes down something they like they'll be bleating in the streets once again.
I don't vote for Republican, or Democrats for that matter, and consider myself moderate. But even I know the difference between Judicial Review and Judicial Activism. The court is exercising Judicial Review. Now we can argue as to whether that was the original intention of the Founding Fathers, to grant the high court that power, but you would be hard pressed to argue that they are being activist judges in this case.
Marbury vs. Madison established Judicial Review, and that was in the beginning of the 19th century, not at the founding of the court. I personally believe that Judicial Review gives the court ultimate authority in our land. The court is going to be partisan, as it is made up of appointees from both the left and the right. I wish they were all moderates, but we can agree that kool-aid drinkers like Alito and Kagan are ultimately where all justices will end up being, right or left, they are different sides of the same busted coin.
It's all judicial review, or judicial activism. It all depends on your perspective.
Nevermind, I thought maybe someone else was intelligent on this board, I guess not.
Why don't you try reading the entire thread before posting stuff that's already been covered ad nauseum, Cupcake?
By the way...do you know who granted the Supreme Court the power of judicial review? (hint: it wasn't the Constitution)
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