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Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work? [Locked] |
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Will Obama's campaign of fear, threats, and intimidation against SCOTUS work? |
Yukishiro1 posted:
If the Supreme Court strikes down Obamacare it will make Obama more powerful than they can possibly imagine!
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Bjorvald  Posts: 334
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>> While Obama was stupid (not wrong, but stupid) to say "unprecedented", everything else he said was accurate and true. <<
He wasn't just stupid or wrong, he was intentionally lying. He knows better. He's banking on stupid uninformed voters lapping it up, along with a biased media that refuses to call him on his lies. There is nothing unprecedented at all about the SC overturning a federal law.
He also lied about the "strong majority" when it actually whisker thin (220-215).
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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So, right wingers are whining about Obama's call to rein in judicial activism? Amazing how the right will instantly turn on an issue a millisecond after Obama speaks in favor of it.
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redlegOIF  Title: Fire for Effect!
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I think the most laughable part of the President's comments:
Obama posted:
Ultimately, I’m confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.
219-212 in the House (with 34 Democrats joining ALL Republicans in opposition).
60-40 in the Senate (which used the Nuclear option to prevent a filibuster).
Strong Majority? 
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Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Bjorvald posted:
He's banking on stupid uninformed voters lapping it up, along with a biased media that refuses to call him on his lies.
CBS posted:
Overturning a law of course would not be unprecedented -- since the Supreme Court since 1803 has asserted the power to strike down laws it interprets as unconstitutional.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504564_162-57408827-504564/appeals-court-fires-back-at-obamas-comments-on-health-care-case/
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
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Groucho48 posted:
So, right wingers are whining about Obama's call to rein in judicial activism? Amazing how the right will instantly turn on an issue a millisecond after Obama speaks in favor of it.
I would have thought someone who has a super pac even though he is against them would understand the need to use your opponents tactics to level the playing field.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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I would like to think that this case will finally make the right STFU about judicial activism but Groucho is right, as soon as this one is over and SCOTUS strikes down something they like they'll be bleating in the streets once again.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
So, right wingers are whining about Obama's call to rein in judicial activism? Amazing how the right will instantly turn on an issue a millisecond after Obama speaks in favor of it.
I would have thought someone who has a super pac even though he is against them would understand the need to use your opponents tactics to level the playing field.
Which is what Obama is doing and the right is whining about it. Right wingers have been whining about the Courts overruling what elected officials have decided at least since Brown v. Board of Education. Now that Obama is using that argument, they are /outraged that anyone would dare imply the Court was over-reaching.
<edit> Just recently, Gingrich proclaimed he was in favor of impeaching any Court Justices that attempted to over turn any law his administration would pass.
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Newt Gingrich says as president he would ignore Supreme Court decisions that conflicted with his powers as commander in chief, and he would press for impeaching judges or even abolishing certain courts if he disagreed with their rulings.
"I'm fed up with elitist judges" who seek to impose their "radically un-American" views, Gingrich said Saturday in a conference call with reporters.
Talk about fear, threats and intimidation!
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
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Groucho48 posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
So, right wingers are whining about Obama's call to rein in judicial activism? Amazing how the right will instantly turn on an issue a millisecond after Obama speaks in favor of it.
I would have thought someone who has a super pac even though he is against them would understand the need to use your opponents tactics to level the playing field.
Which is what Obama is doing and the right is whining about it. Right wingers have been whining about the Courts overruling what elected officials have decided at least since Brown v. Board of Education. Now that Obama is using that argument, they are /outraged that anyone would dare imply the Court was over-reaching.
So it is wrong when republicans use their opponents tactics but it is OK when Obama does it, right, got it, not surprised.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2006/06/bush-criticizes-activist-judges-in.php
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President Bush Monday denounced "activist judges" who have struck down state laws banning same-sex marriage as he urged Congress to approve the so-called Marriage Protection Amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. At a White House event, Bush said:
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Some argue that defining marriage should be left to the states. The fact is, state legislatures are trying to address this issue. But across the country, they are being thwarted by activist judges who are overturning the expressed will of their people. And these court decisions can have an impact on our whole nation.
The American Bar Association has already criticized the proposed amendment as "trampl[ing] on the traditional authority of each state to establish its own laws governing civil marriage."
The Marriage Protection Amendment is being debated in the US Senate this week, following its approval by the Judiciary Committee last month. But Senate Democrats and moderate Republicans are expected to block a final vote. To become law, a constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds majority in each house of Congress followed by ratification by three-quarters of the states.
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