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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

Some of those guys have been here for 20+ years and speak almost NO English. This is pure, unadulterated laziness IMO.

Actually it is more than that with some of them. It is a political statement and attitude.
tenkly  4 stars
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theredkay1 posted:

tenkly posted:

So you're saying people should go out of their way to learn languages other than the official languages just because some people don't want to learn the official languages? That's a retarded argument.



No, Im not saying people should go out of their way. I just think getting all upset that someone hasnt learned your language is kind of stupid when you have made the exact same decision.

Knowing multiple languages is a valuable skill. Im not sure what you think the term 'official language' means....its kind of a meaningless artificial construct that shouldnt influence anyones behavior.



No it's not meaningless. Welcome to Canada.

http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/charter_charte_e.php

Official languages are addressed specifically sections 16 to 23Government site. For example, section 20Government site states that "any member of the public in Canada has the right to communicate with, and to receive available services from, any head or central office of an institution of the Parliament or government of Canada in English or French [...]"


http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/lo-ol/bllng/hist-eng.cfm


1969

Following the work of the Commission, the first Official Languages Act is adopted by Parliament. This Act recognized English and French as the official languages of all federal institutions in Canada. It grants equality of status of French and English not only in the Parliament or before courts, but also throughout the federal administration. The Act states that the public has the right to receive services from federal institutions in certain locations and to appear before federal courts and tribunals in the official language of their choice.
New Brunswick enacts its first Official Languages Act , making it Canada 's first, and only, officially bilingual province.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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As of oct 2008. New N-400 applicants take the 'new test' which is the same as the previous test with two additional sections testing knowledge of American Society and English language proficiency...

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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BTW, the American history part of the test is funny because probably less than 25% of American citizens could actually pass it.
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Good luck getting many jobs if you dont know English here in America

 

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Darkblade_The_Great  1 star
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Yukishiro1 posted:

America doesn't have an official language, and English is pretty clearly not the "native" language of America.



Also, I know TONS of Americans who go to foreign countries and expect people to speak English to them. Pretty much everyone actually.



For some reason I am not surprised that everybody you know is a douche bag when they travel.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Uh you are lying to yourself or just have no experience at all if you don't think many (probably most) Americans abroad don't basically stick to english the whole time.

And no, adding "por favor" onto the end of your English sentence doesn't qualify as speaking spanish. Sorry.
IMHO  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-11-1 03:55:02
Yukishiro1 posted:

Uh you are lying to yourself or just have no experience at all if you don't think many (probably most) Americans abroad don't basically stick to english the whole time.

And no, adding "por favor" onto the end of your English sentence doesn't qualify as speaking spanish. Sorry.



There's a difference between speaking English while vacationing in a foreign country spending money and sneaking into a country and stealing work and expecting that country to bend to your druthers.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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"Stealing work?" Tell us how you really feel?
paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Lyndrek posted:

I make granite countertops.....

i speak english and spanish fluently... give me some time and i'll brush off my german and american sign language skills. was pretty damn good at them


But can you make a search function?

 

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