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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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How would tossing the girl into prison make the guy's life any better?
There are arguments for penalizing the woman and arguments against penalizing her. It comes down to a judgement call. If enough people in his area think he made the wrong call, they can vote the guy out.
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It makes me look forward to when the Islamists take over the world and impose Sharia Law.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius  Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Moe_Nox posted:
She should be imprisoned for a decade.
I didn't go there with you and Cawlin.
However:
1) there should sure as f'ck be an independent investigation and if prosecutors, cops, defense attorneys, etc were found to be negligent, they should be outed and their careers trashed.
2) The father should have the chance to sue (and win) in civil court and essentially get an indentured servant, in the form of his daughter, for the next 8-10 years. Since, again, even after she was an adult she let him rot another 5-6 years.
It's a pittance compared to the hell he's been through. But it would be a start. And frankly, there should be some taxpayer work done in a criminal case to make the civil case open-and-shut for the guy. Yuki of course won't point that out.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Groucho48 posted:
How would tossing the girl into prison make the guy's life any better?
There are arguments for penalizing the woman and arguments against penalizing her. It comes down to a judgement call. If enough people in his area think he made the wrong call, they can vote the guy out.
There is nothing gained by tossing the girl into prison. It would not make this guy's life any better. Some attempt at repairing his life though IS in order, but eye for an eye thinking is just as bad as doing nothing for him, if not worse imo.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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What they really ought to do is have the state or local municipality find some job he's qualified to do and give him the next opening. I don't think he needs to be set up for the rest of his life but if the argument is really about opportunity it makes sense for the gubmint to give him that opportunity that's been taken away.
He will end up with a couple hundred thousand in statutory benefits too.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Moe_Nox posted:
She should be imprisoned for a decade.
I didn't go there with you and Cawlin.
However:
1) there should sure as f'ck be an independent investigation and if prosecutors, cops, defense attorneys, etc were found to be negligent, they should be outed and their careers trashed.
2) The father should have the chance to sue (and win) in civil court and essentially get an indentured servant, in the form of his daughter, for the next 8-10 years. Since, again, even after she was an adult she let him rot another 5-6 years.
It's a pittance compared to the hell he's been through. But it would be a start. And frankly, there should be some taxpayer work done in a criminal case to make the civil case open-and-shut for the guy. Yuki of course won't point that out.
I'm not advocating punishing the girl, and haven't done so once. I think the evidence that was used to convict him was shady, and that his sentence was overly harsh based on the tenuous nature of the evidence. I think that the state should take some pretty goddamn big steps to try to at least set this guy on a path that he has no need to worry about the jobs he won't ever be able to get...
This girl is his daughter. He probably still loves her. What would he gain from her being punished in any way? I posted my feelings on this pretty much at the same time (or at least before I saw your post) as you posted what I'm quoting here...
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Sgian_Dubh  Posts: 446
Registered: 2003-4-7 10:19:52
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Cawlin posted:
It's impossible to repay this man for what has been done to him, however it should start with:
1) Totally fresh identity on the order of witness protection program - he will need this in order to live in peace.
2) His name expunged from all official court and prison records involving this case.
3) Financial compensation such that he is afforded a very comfortable lifestyle for the rest of his life - I am thinking a very nice house in a different place, and an income on the order of $100k annually for life.
4) Health insurance covered for life which includes psychiatric counseling and therapy to help him cope with having just spent the last 10 years in Hell on Earth.
That'd be a start...
All that based on your hypothetical anecdote concerning his prison stay?
lol.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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I read the link a couple days ago so I forget. Do we know if the father wants his daughter to face charges? That would carry a lot of weight with me.
Also, it did seem to me that there was fairly solid evidence that sexual abuse had taken place. Just, apparently, not by dad. Wasn't there bruising around her vagina, or something? And, her later behavior is classic behavior for someone who has been abused.
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If I read it right... it happened in Washington state and they do not offer financial compensation to those wrongfully imprisoned... also read that she had tried sex with a boy around her age is why there had been indication of sexual activity.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Yeah apparently WA is a total douchebag state that gives wrongly imprisoned people nothing at all. WTG Bonk and Koneg! |
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