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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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eodoll posted:

He can sue the police and prosecutor too.



No you can't.


Not for simple incompetence, anyhow.


Most states do have compensation schemes set up though for paying people who were innocent. They usually end up paying you something like 60k/year you were locked up.
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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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You are probably exaggerating again, too. Why do you think this guy can't live anywhere any more?


I would think he would be getting a lot of sympathy. He got jailed for 11 years for something he didn't do.
Cawlin  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

eodoll posted:

He can sue the police and prosecutor too.



No you can't.

Not for simple incompetence, anyhow.

Most states do have compensation schemes set up though for paying people who were innocent. They usually end up paying you something like 60k/year you were locked up.



And in this case, given the highly publicized nature of the crime for which this guy was convicted (which is part of the reason why such cases get prosecuted so vigorously) this dude has less than zero chance at a normal life (to say nothing of the psychological damage he will have to try to get through) based on external factors as a result of this.


Yukishiro1 posted:

You are probably exaggerating again, too. Why do you think this guy can't live anywhere any more?

I would think he would be getting a lot of sympathy. He got jailed for 11 years for something he didn't do.



Hell I'll bet his name still winds up on the sex offender roles and I'll bet the state comes after him for back child support too ffs.

There will be people who think that this guy got off on a technicality and that he's really guilty. When he goes to try to get a job at any place that runs a background check, they will see this and regardless of the truth of the matter, they will move on to the next applicant. You can pretend that this doesn't happen but it does at any job that is above minimum wage type unskilled labor work.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

Hell I'll bet his name still winds up on the sex offender roles and I'll bet the state comes after him for back child support too ffs.



I get it, you don't really care about the guy, you just wanna arghbelbarghl some more about how unfair society is to men.


Carry on I suppose. Although I think it's in pretty poor taste to nail this poor guy who's already been though a lot to a cross for your own benefit.
Cawlin  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Cawlin posted:

Hell I'll bet his name still winds up on the sex offender roles and I'll bet the state comes after him for back child support too ffs.



I get it, you don't really care about the guy, you just wanna arghbelbarghl some more about how unfair society is to men.

Carry on I suppose. Although I think it's in pretty poor taste to nail this poor guy who's already been though a lot to a cross for your own benefit.



LOL give me a break. You obviously are uncomfortable with the cavalier way this is being handled and wish to make me out to be the bad guy here.

This guy's life is RUINED FOREVER, period. Nobody is going to bother to interact with him to find out the truth of the story. After the 10 or so friends and relatives he may still have show up for his "welcome home party", who else will he interact with that won't eventually find out about this stuff? They won't stick around to find out the truth, they will assume he is guilty and got off on a technicality and just write him off as another scumbag.

Everything he might have had was gone, everything he might have become is gone, his basic humanity was taken from him in prison - based on a lie from a capricious and little girl who did what she did with malice of forethought, and a zealous prosecutor who was willing to portray sketchy "evidence" at best in order to get a high profile, "good numbers" conviction.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
I bet it was a scheme his daughter came up with.

"Look dad, you are a useless drunk and haven't had a job in years, so we send you to prison for a decade and then I tell them I lied. I won't get in trouble, you get a big payoff, I get a big payoff in the form of back child support which you pay with the money you get from the state for locking you up when you didn't do anything wrong. You still have enough left over to live comfortable, I get enough to start out in life. Win win. Or you can just go to jail and get butt raped, serve your time and get out with nothing. Your choice."

Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

This guy's life is RUINED FOREVER, period. Nobody is going to bother to interact with him to find out the truth of the story. After the 10 or so friends and relatives he may still have show up for his "welcome home party", who else will he interact with that won't eventually find out about this stuff? They won't stick around to find out the truth, they will assume he is guilty and got off on a technicality and just write him off as another scumbag.



Good lord. Emo much?


This is clearly all about validating your stupid beliefs about the world and not at all about this poor guy, who you will do nothing at all for and will have forgotten within a week. Although you certainly won't have forgotten your anger at society. At least have the honesty and integrity not to nail him to your cross when you don't give a crap about him.


You are starting to sound like Al Sharpton or something.
Cawlin  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Cawlin posted:

This guy's life is RUINED FOREVER, period. Nobody is going to bother to interact with him to find out the truth of the story. After the 10 or so friends and relatives he may still have show up for his "welcome home party", who else will he interact with that won't eventually find out about this stuff? They won't stick around to find out the truth, they will assume he is guilty and got off on a technicality and just write him off as another scumbag.



Good lord. Emo much?

This is clearly all about validating your stupid beliefs about the world and not at all about this poor guy, who you will do nothing at all for and will have forgotten within a week. Although you certainly won't have forgotten your anger at society. At least have the honesty and integrity not to nail him to your cross when you don't give a crap about him.

You are starting to sound like Al Sharpton or something.



There are no "beliefs" in question here. There are facts. The facts are that an innocent man was convicted on shady, shaky, and false testimony and spent over 10 years forced into the lowest possible form of human life in prison as a result of that conviction. The fact is that his accuser later recanted her testimony, admitting it was a premeditated lie and a vicious scheme, and he was or will be released.

His life is ruined and he will lack the ability to have anything more than basic subsistence for the remainder of it. His psychological state is almost ASSUREDLY a wreck as a result as well.

So this man had pretty much everything in his life taken from him, and to some of you that's just all well and good: bummer dude, sucks to be you, sure glad that didn't happen to me.

These are the facts here. There are no beliefs about it. Just plain facts.

Maybe some of you ought to think about how easily this could happen to you and has happened to many others. Perhaps then you will see some of the problems with our justice system.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Are you going to do anything to help this guy? Or are you just going to flog his story to validate your ideology?


So far I've seen the latter. In fact, I suspect if you're honest with yourself you're happier if is life is ruined by this than if it isn't. You sound positively gleeful as you describe your unfounded "fact" that this guy will never be able to get a decent job again and everyone is going to shun him and blah blah blha.


Which is kinda gross honestly. In a Nancy Grace sort of way.

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