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Cydoc  Title: Final Fantasy Vault SM
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Registered: 2008-9-23 19:33:50
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@Mythic/Players, Biggest BS class in DAoC? |
Dragulas_VN posted:
Dunno why these threads are constantly made... it's obv people are gonna vote Warlocks
You don't know that! The Mauler class could come from behind. It is only 32 votes away from taking the lead.
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Tarmaniel Posts: 36
Registered: 2010-4-29 16:59:53
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Burkuagh posted:
Tarmaniel posted:
Warlocks have plenty of tradeoffs. They have no quickcast, and most importantly, they have no CC. In a 1v1 situation I fear an SM far more than I fear a Warlock.
Why would you need or want quickcast when you have UIs and chambers? Warlocks have root that can be chambered, snare and NS that can be cast UI or be part of a chamber or depending on spec be cast from further range than any other caster in the entire game.
SMs are a joke unless you are fighting them on a melee class at close range and have no sense of when to break LoS or just run out their MoC. Against the vast majority of casters SMs are pushovers and essentially free RPs. I cannot remember dying once to a SM on my eldy in the last two years outside of being run over by a Mid 8-man on our duo. But honestly I don't usually die to warlocks either but only because they play like idiots 99% of the time and zero in on me while leaving my bard free healing... they also stopped using the dragon staff to cure NS and almost consistently purge it letting me stun nuke them down.
This is without relics and 33% matter resists from a single chamber from a rr5 warlock where the dot crit.
I did happen to live because we kited back and I got heals but I took 2426 damage from a 1500 range instant spell. I think that takes the cake for broken.
A hexing spec Warlock? I don't think I've EVER run into one of those.
But this is not evidence of OPness. Lance Spirit from a matter cab does about the same amount of damage.....and it's AoE. And they can QC it.
Warlocks are simply not that strong if you know how to fight them. UI/LT is simply vastly inferior to being able to QC CC and get range on a melee class that's pounding on you. I imagine some casters have a hard time against them, but if you have bolts they're free RPs.
Just because there are some classes Warlocks can utterly destroy doesn't make them OP. On my Paladin, all melee classes except Valks (which is a stalemate) are RP donations. BMs/Zerkers I can 3v1 and come out on top. Does that mean the Paladin is overpowered?
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Burkuagh  Posts: 66
Registered: 2004-8-24 14:49:11
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It is the fact that warlocks were specifically designed to break the rules that govern the game that makes them inherently broken and impossible to ever balance.
And you do know that warlocks can chamber roots and UI snares to gain distance on melee and have the exact same effect as a cabby QCing a root? Probably not because as per my previous post most warlocks play like crap, even the regularly played and high RR ones. Most are too used to having UI and chambers do all the work for them and destroying people that play as badly as they do. If a skilled player actually set out to play one to its full potential it would be much more evident how broken they are.
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Date Posted:
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How do you fools survive in other MMOs where you can spam melee and all casters have no interupts?
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Burkuagh Posts: 66
Registered: 2004-8-24 14:49:11
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I actually found wow to have more interrupts and lockouts that were a bigger pain in the ass than daoc's interrupt code.
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d_i_r_t_y Posts: 30
Registered: 2004-5-8 00:59:15
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1/1/00 12:00am
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a poll like this can only be fair if you list every class in the game.
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Tarmaniel Posts: 36
Registered: 2010-4-29 16:59:53
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@Mythic/Players, Biggest BS class in DAoC? |
Burkuagh posted:
It is the fact that warlocks were specifically designed to break the rules that govern the game that makes them inherently broken and impossible to ever balance.
And you do know that warlocks can chamber roots and UI snares to gain distance on melee and have the exact same effect as a cabby QCing a root? Probably not because as per my previous post most warlocks play like crap, even the regularly played and high RR ones. Most are too used to having UI and chambers do all the work for them and destroying people that play as badly as they do. If a skilled player actually set out to play one to its full potential it would be much more evident how broken they are.
If they're hexing specced, yes they can do that. I would be VERY surprised if hex spec locks comprised even 1% of all locks. Typical lock specs only have 12 or 22 in Hex which means they absolutely cannot chamber root or UI snare, the root will get resisted 75% of the time and the snare off UI will last about five seconds when it doesn't get resisted.
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Burkuagh Posts: 66
Registered: 2004-8-24 14:49:11
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Back again to warlocks being played poorly. Speccing is part of playing. There were a lot of widely specced warlocks that were quite a bit more successful after the first round of recent warlock changes than the current ones that all think all they need is double chambered lifetaps.
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I'm surprised with all the wl hate. I personally hate vamps. reasons
1) claw spam
2) major self heal unaffected by disease.
3) endo drain
4) don't evan half to sacrafice anything for claw spam, its in every spec line
5) self speed
6) buffs not needed
7) only visi class to see stealth
8) only visi class with safe fall(i think)
9) hybrid that can climb walls
10) fumble
lets face it is there an ability in the game that they dont have? Any toon that can wonder around the lab with red mobs attached to them and not care has some balance issues.
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LarianLeQuella Title: DAoC Knight
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Registered: 2001-12-20 17:43:21
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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@Mythic/Players, Biggest BS class in DAoC? |
Burkuagh posted:
The only time sorcs suck is if they spec Matter. 
So that's what I did wrong on my sorc!
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