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Tarmaniel
Posts: 36
Registered: 2010-4-29 16:59:53
Ohforf posted:

Tarmaniel posted:

How you can fail to kill a Warlock on a goddamn Reaver with lifetaps is beyond me.



Reaver LT is only 1000 range you know.
WL range is 1875 & 1500.

Maybe I only ever met high RR WLs, but I never got into LT range when one jumped me.

Or maybe I'm just a lousy player *shrug*

At any rate, it's no easier getting to the all important RR5 on a Reaver than on any other class IMHO, especially as getting a group isn't usually an option.



Soloing is better RP/hour than grouping, especially as a Reaver, unless you're in an elite 8-man, and if you're lower than RR5, you're not. Pugging in DAoC is actually worse than pugging in WoW, something which I thought was totally impossible.

You're actually claiming you don't even get within 1000 range of Warlocks? Seriously, they don't gib you in the time to takes to run 500 units. If you can't get in range of a Warlock then you can't get in range of any caster, Warlocks frontload more with the chamber but their LT delve is quite a bit lower than the spec nuke most other casters will be using on you.
Devaster-S-  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2003-1-27 16:54:15
There are plenty of cheese classes in specific situations/instances. Like windwalkr said. But I have to agree with the other guy who said Warlocks break the laws that govern this game. Chambers should never have been an option. Nor giving them UI nukes. The class just doesn't fit in this game well.

Warlock is my biggest BS class, but simply because they shouldn't have been added to the game. You can't balance warlocks.

 

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Phlei  1 star
Posts: 214
Registered: 2008-12-10 18:38:51
Ohforf posted:

Phlei posted:

Reavers are most OP'd melee 1v1.

I guess Warlocks might be worst caster 1v1, though, I have not played against one since chamber nerf.

People still complain about Sorc's? I would argue that an SM is better than sorc in many situations. Sorc might have better mez but SM gets mezzes, root, intercepting pet, self-debuff/pbaoe spec, etc. Not that I think SM's are OP'd. Oh, and cabby is better than sorc imo (everyone should have purge if solo, or demezzer if grouped)


edit: rofl, no reaver on list. fail poll.



You honestly think Reavers are more OPed than Vamps? O.o



Yes, I do.

My only experience in recent memory is on my skald - my win rate against vamps is much much higher than against reavers.

 

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Burkuagh  1 star
Posts: 66
Registered: 2004-8-24 14:49:11
Tarmaniel posted:

Warlocks have plenty of tradeoffs. They have no quickcast, and most importantly, they have no CC. In a 1v1 situation I fear an SM far more than I fear a Warlock.



Why would you need or want quickcast when you have UIs and chambers? Warlocks have root that can be chambered, snare and NS that can be cast UI or be part of a chamber or depending on spec be cast from further range than any other caster in the entire game.

SMs are a joke unless you are fighting them on a melee class at close range and have no sense of when to break LoS or just run out their MoC. Against the vast majority of casters SMs are pushovers and essentially free RPs. I cannot remember dying once to a SM on my eldy in the last two years outside of being run over by a Mid 8-man on our duo. But honestly I don't usually die to warlocks either but only because they play like idiots 99% of the time and zero in on me while leaving my bard free healing... they also stopped using the dragon staff to cure NS and almost consistently purge it letting me stun nuke them down.

This is without relics and 33% matter resists from a single chamber from a rr5 warlock where the dot crit.



I did happen to live because we kited back and I got heals but I took 2426 damage from a 1500 range instant spell. I think that takes the cake for broken.

 

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FalckorDrannor
Posts: 2
Registered: 2005-2-4 17:03:33
warlock, bd for being robe caster who still can interupt players and deal damage while they are interupted (remember the bainshee's taunt, although it was'nt doing damage, it has been nerfed pretty fast)

valkyrie because except stoicism they got it all. deter, charge, massive interupt/petproc weapons, high damage, HUGE surviviability & shield.
Vampires are just a joke beside this.

I think mid players will say Heretic are BS because they don't got instant amnesia for it, or Bainshee pbaoe is dumb because you can't interupt it, but I don't feel the same frustration when I'm fighting vampire/bainshee or heretic/theurg in comparision of fighting WL/BD/valk groups.
CrzyHawk  2 stars
Posts: 250
Registered: 2002-2-14 07:53:08
There's a lot of OP crap in this game...but insta gib warlocks take the cake.

 

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GregorianNox
Posts: 6
Registered: 2005-9-10 02:28:56
@ mythix nerf paladins kthx

 

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GregorianNox posted:

@ mythix nerf paladins kthx



for realz! with their leet damage and their dual spec 2h line. What a bunch of bs!

 

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Dragulas_VN
Posts: 7
Registered: 2008-7-1 18:06:23
Why the fuck isn't Valkyrie a choice?


Dunno why these threads are constantly made... it's obv people are gonna vote Warlocks

 

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Treekicker  1 star
Posts: 53
Registered: 2004-10-4 13:12:52
Warlock hands down, nothing else is even close.

Where's scouts? I'd put them as distant second leading a close pack of several.

Title says biggest BS class not OP'd class. Slam/pb with 45 sec reuse on a class with blocking and all the sojo toys is ridiculous. Throw in stealth, no shame, traveling in packs, and overpopulated to magnify the BS problem and you basically can throw the solo game in the toilet.

My 2c

 

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