I read many a VN site, and many gaming sites in general. I've tried many games, and something I've noticed, and I wonder if you guys at EAMythicBioware read these things as well, and do you have the power and the guts to stand up and push for something???

My point being, everywhere I go in the above mentioned, people STILL rave about DAoC. Yes, tons, including the ones still playing are frustrated with the game being old, and on maintenance mode. While we know you can't recapture what was so precious to us when the game was new to us, there must also be something better than the present situation. I have met people in Aion, LotrO, WAR, etc, that wish that the game they are currently playing had some daoc pvp elements. So many left due to various factors, chasing down new games just to become jaded. Others left to the fact you needed a bot account, or upset at Op classes like the warlock, others left cause archery got revamped, etc. Yet, something remains a constant among most of the people, they miss DAoC before it was neglected.

Mythic told us that the DAoC base would not be forgotten during the WAR development, and I say we have been forgotten. There have been tons of threads here and on other boards about remaking DAoC, or Origins, or a DAoC2. I think you underestimate the numbers of people that would follow and go for such a project.

Yes, I am bringing this up out of selfishness, I want a DAoC type pvp/rvr game wrapped in a new package. But, seriously, think about it this way,it would be a selfish move from your point of view also. This would regain support and enthusiasm from your base, a chance to excel where Warhammer didn't, a chance to regain pride in what you do. Be honest, WAR was a disaster, go to your bosses, be bold, and push for this. We are approaching the 10 year anniversary of DAoC. What better gift for your fan base, than to remake, re-release, revamp DAoC? Think I am wrong, take a poll, not just here but WAR boards, etc. Seriously give this thought, I think you guys are missing the boat.

 

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If these guys had taken 5% of the resources used for Failhammer and put them against DAOC2, they'd have had a huge hit. Instead....they have the biggest failure in MMO history. LOL.

1. Honestly I don’t think Mythic Is ready to make DAOC2 if they use the same people who made warhammer it will bust fast. I understand that War wasn’t a WoW clone but it tried so hard to make wow Players feel at home. When you make DAOC2 make it the way DAOC2 should be made not bending to WoW. None of this mirror Class bull crap that all these game are doing now. 3 FACTIONS! Hell just keep the game the same except take out TOA then build from there. And lastly LISTEN TO YOUR COSTUMERS/Players. the Founder of McDonalds once said " Take care of the Costumers and The business will take care of itself." the current MMO industry is really missing the Costumer Input and overall satisfaction.


2. Seriously, Try to think of the last game that you play that wasn’t a Bust within a year. it will probably be WoW or Prewow. Such as FFXI,DAOC,EQ,WoW. Stop treating MMO's as a Product based Company Because it is in all entities a SERVICE BASED COMPANY. Hopefully EA will give Mythic another shot and Hopefully Mythic Employees will stand up for what they know we want.


3. DONT LET EA TOUCH DAOC2 think of everything that EA has Touched MMO wise now ask your player base what they liked. EA Lacks Quality in their work lets take LoTM for example it was Complete trash Every realm got the same crappy class every realm got the same Race ( Minotaur ) and its a good reason as to why its probably one of the most hated Expansion packs ToA also ( but with TOA you all just went overboard, PvE isn’t bad just WAY TO MUCH.) if EA has plans to help Design DAOC2 Don’t bother it will bust I bet my entire Savings on it.


4. TALK TO YOUR PLAYERS. roughly 20-50 employees make and MMO Roughly 500k-1000k play starting up. now there is a good chance that your player base has better idea then the team currently has. Lets take for example this. Why Do 90% of the players that play WAR hate the new playable skaven. You guys may be baffled but EVERYONE KNOWS WHY. YOU DIDN’T LISTEN AT ALL. People wanted to play the class from level 1-40 RR1-100 you can bring in a lot more fan boys if you would have at least done that. But instead you skimp out on Quality or just didn’t listen to the player base and it will more than likely be a liability.


Sorry I know this looks like a rage post but Mythic needs somebody to grow some bawls you guys have the ability to make a great video game but your to scared to Tell DaddyEA that you can do it 100x better.

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I'm one of those original accounts from DAoC's release. I've played every mmo that's come down the pike and agree. So, so many people I meet in those other games tell me how much they adored DAoC once upon a time...

I also realize that you can't capture that special time we all experienced back in 2001-2002, BUT you could come close. Origins was a step in the right direction. They had a poll up on the Herald for quite awhile with a majority in favor of Origins. They got online and told us how great it was all going to be, I personally had 30+ veteran players contact me to reform our original guild just for Origins. The chat on all the servers became Origins this and Origins that... Several guilds even posted how they were going to redesign groups, old XP camps were posted so players would know where to level. The population saw a huge influx of players returning. There for several months DAoC was on a steady climb back into the healthy region of mmo's.

Then someone at EA / Mythic / Bioware flipped a switch and suddenly, silence... All that grand talk, design posts and the like just went away. To this day I have no clue what happened. One day Mythic was announcing all these wonderful redesigns on classes going back to classic DAoC, original zones, old frontiers, bug fixes and then nothing.

I couldn't believe it. Origins had generated so much interest and returning players I can't imagine what brought it all to a halt. They would have doubled or tripled the population for a very modest investment, so I was just dumbstruck...

If Mythic, etc. spent a little time surfing the web, they'd see literally thousands of veteran players that post on forums and even youtube about how much they wanted Origins. Example: I was in Bestbuy only a month ago picking up a new mouse and started chatting with the salesman and found out he had played DAoC and also wondered what put the stop to Origins.

So, I'd also be interested in knowing why EA / Mythic / Whoever dangled the carrot only to pull it away...?

andy/adam aren't going to touch this thread with a 10 foot pole... sorry guys...


everything you've posted to this point is correct tho... i saw 100+ old players(mostly guildies) re-up their accounts in may/june of that year....

we were all very excited to see a new server.. to re-live some of the glory days... with word that origins was going to be released in aug/sept ....


but WH was falling behind schedule... so they took the doac team and moved them to WH to help...

with rumor saying origins would be release after WH in oct/nov or dec of that year...


of course by sept with no official word about origins most of the old/new/current faces melted away... the famous message heard around the daoc world was "call me if they do it, F'm if they don't"


after WH launch.. minus a number of classes/content not ready at release.. WH began to bomb, by dec/jan?... and now i think it has a lower player base then daoc..


so that being said EA looked at the books and said theres no money in MMO's.. and origins went down the can...


the worst part of the whole thing was .... they didn't even bother to tell us...

 

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Mythic became severely cashed strapped after pulling the plug on Imperator and after picking up the Warhammer Online franchise.

Imperator could have been a sweeping success because it WAS different and unique, but oh well.

Had Mythic not sold out to EA, the company would had folded years ago.

Origins was a victim because it would had been a waste of badly needed resources imho.

Frankly, Origins would have been appealing from a nostalgia standpoint, but overall, it would had been just been a watered down shell of DAoC.

After the newness wore off, Origins would more than likely devolved into an even worse version of the "Classic" servers.

 

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The people in charge lack the character and integrity to do anything I can trust. We need a completely different crew, different leaders and honest developers. All Mythic would do would be to say one thing and do exactly the opposite. Ever since their lies about toa, they've proven they cannot be trusted.

Nothing can beat DAOC, but the game is a shadow of itself and donkeys years old. People grow up and such, the game would never have the appeal it once had and so forth.

 

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Bumping for Andy. I know you guys feel compelled to post here once a month and keep the illusion that you are on top of things. Sorry if that sounds jaded, but wake up and consider what your fan base really desires. Not dopples, not live events, or any other crap. Someone there has the power to do this, if not you, go find out who and make it happen. Again, this would benefit all, EAmythic and the people that play and use to play your games.

Secondly, lack of responding shows lack of character in our eyes. With all the people that still have a job with EAMythic, surely someone has a couple of hours to browse and keep in touch with the fans. We, the consumer demand more.

 

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