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The Duning-Kruger effect
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b0xy
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Registered: 2009-3-21 20:06:56
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From wikipedia:
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence. Competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."
I think this pretty much sums up 100% of the population of any game ever, especially on forums.
The truth is that most of these "pro" gamers are average at best. Furthermore, if all the kids who claim to be pro actually are, then pro becomes the new average and they're still average gamers.
Be wary of anyone who talks a big game because they're probably among the unskilled masses.
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Jumo_007
Title: Brehon Buddha
Posts: 138
Registered: 2006-7-11 08:09:31
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Date Posted:
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b0xy posted:
From wikipedia:
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence. Competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."
I think this pretty much sums up 100% of the population of any game ever, especially on forums.
The truth is that most of these "pro" gamers are average at best. Furthermore, if all the kids who claim to be pro actually are, then pro becomes the new average and they're still average gamers.
Be wary of anyone who talks a big game because they're probably among the unskilled masses.
LOL. Pro gamer is an oxymoron. How can one be expert at gaming? LOL.
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Robocodd
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Registered: 2010-5-18 13:07:39
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one of the most complex, yet simple, things ive read in a long time. i like it and totally agree. pretty much describes my workplace
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Semi4
Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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And more fun stuff from the Wiki
Dunning–Kruger effect
"Dunning et al. cite a study saying that 94% of college professors rank their work as "above average" (relative to their peers), to underscore that the highly intelligent and informed are hardly exempt."
"Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve. "
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Exp_Tristan
Title: Tired of catching Cheaters and Mythic doing nada!
Posts: 200
Registered: 2003-1-2 08:26:52
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Wow this can be applied to governments all across the world, as well as EVERY game, the police, churchs(especially these), and many other things in life!
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Zyzyg
Title: Geniuss Extraordinaire
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Registered: 2002-12-30 23:35:23
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I heard someone say once that one of the hardest things in life is to live up to one's own rhetoric.
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KappenWizzbang
Title: Reverend Blue Jeans
Posts: 141
Registered: 2004-1-30 07:39:15
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Semi4 posted:
And more fun stuff from the Wiki
Dunning–Kruger effect
"Dunning et al. cite a study saying that 94% of college professors rank their work as "above average" (relative to their peers), to underscore that the highly intelligent and informed are hardly exempt."
"Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve. "
This aligns with my experience regarding college professors. But the good ones were great.
EDIT: I also remember an interview from a long time ago, think it was Charlie Rose (but not sure), who was talking about how so many of the people he interviews, who have achieved notable success, think they're frauds. It was very interesting...wonder if I can find that.
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Axehaft
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Registered: 2003-10-7 20:41:31
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Yep I totally agree. See so many people displaying behavior as described above. Myself included I guess. 
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When I read the above, all I could think is "Hainesmudafukamurders." LOL.
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