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Exp_Tristan  1 star
Title: Tired of catching Cheaters and Mythic doing nada!
Posts: 200
Registered: 2003-1-2 08:26:52
if i could /nerf 1 DAoC class it would be the Minstrel!


I would remove EVERYTHING except Speed SOS and a weapon!


it's a 1,000,000,000% BS OP'ED CLASS!


Insta Stun

NO 2nd ZZZ LOS check

Stealth(WTF)

climb walls(WTF)

2 DD's

RED con Pets(WTF)

 

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Jocke-Percival  1 star
Posts: 218
Registered: 2005-10-8 09:47:32
Exp_Tristan posted:

if i could /nerf 1 DAoC class it would be the Minstrel!

I would remove EVERYTHING except Speed SOS and a weapon!

it's a 1,000,000,000% BS OP'ED CLASS!

Insta Stun
NO 2nd ZZZ LOS check
Stealth(WTF)
climb walls(WTF)
2 DD's
RED con Pets(WTF)



Thats BS. It does not have a FIRST LOS check but for it to go off the target must be in your line of sight.
Silverbolt999  1 star
Posts: 107
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Even TL for Minst can't find anything to get improved with the class... Nice way to prove how Op'd u guys are.

http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55


Windwalkr posted:

The delve on the DDs was upgraded by about 25% not too long ago (relatively speaking of course) so I have very little hope of that happening. Of course that doesn't mean I won't include it in the report. I personally feel they're pretty much right where they should be for being instants.

With the strength of over-charmed pets, and even some level 50 pets, I also have little hope for defensive improvements TBH. The more melee defense we get (even just Parry spec), the more we're able to hide behind that defense and let the pet hit the opponent in the rear arc. The ablative was also updated when the DDs were, to the current 120 delve with 30% absorption. In 8v8 melee defense is also pretty irrelevant to the role of a Minstrel, so again I don't see Mythic caving in here but I'll certainly relay your thoughts.

A lot of our defense comes from our CC and ablative. I think that's how Mythic probably sees this class being different from other melee classes, and that explains how we ended up getting our RR5 boosted so nicely. That alone is sometimes pretty incredible defense. (I have done this myself a time or two, but last night I watched an entire FG of Mids --who ran dab smack into a solo pet Minstrel-- get PBAE Messed by his RR5. They chose not to blow purge on a single Minstrel, and he went on his marry way and got away scott free. Talk about defense! ;-) )


Keep them coming though, I am grateful for all your feedback. (Just trying to temper your hopes with what my personal opinion on the matter is, just for the sake of discussion. My opinion, however, has no more weight then your own with this report for Mythic. And as you well know, the weight of these reports is limited anyway.)



http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55
Jocke-Percival  1 star
Posts: 218
Registered: 2005-10-8 09:47:32
Silverbolt999 posted:

Even TL for Minst can't find anything to get improved with the class... Nice way to prove how Op'd u guys are.

http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55


Windwalkr posted:

The delve on the DDs was upgraded by about 25% not too long ago (relatively speaking of course) so I have very little hope of that happening. Of course that doesn't mean I won't include it in the report. I personally feel they're pretty much right where they should be for being instants.

With the strength of over-charmed pets, and even some level 50 pets, I also have little hope for defensive improvements TBH. The more melee defense we get (even just Parry spec), the more we're able to hide behind that defense and let the pet hit the opponent in the rear arc. The ablative was also updated when the DDs were, to the current 120 delve with 30% absorption. In 8v8 melee defense is also pretty irrelevant to the role of a Minstrel, so again I don't see Mythic caving in here but I'll certainly relay your thoughts.

A lot of our defense comes from our CC and ablative. I think that's how Mythic probably sees this class being different from other melee classes, and that explains how we ended up getting our RR5 boosted so nicely. That alone is sometimes pretty incredible defense. (I have done this myself a time or two, but last night I watched an entire FG of Mids --who ran dab smack into a solo pet Minstrel-- get PBAE Messed by his RR5. They chose not to blow purge on a single Minstrel, and he went on his marry way and got away scott free. Talk about defense! ;-) )


Keep them coming though, I am grateful for all your feedback. (Just trying to temper your hopes with what my personal opinion on the matter is, just for the sake of discussion. My opinion, however, has no more weight then your own with this report for Mythic. And as you well know, the weight of these reports is limited anyway.)



http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55



With that logic RM's must be hell of OP as they dont need any thing either and havent for YEARS.
Morgash  1 star
Posts: 141
Registered: 2003-1-28 20:53:00
Silverbolt999 posted:

Even TL for Minst can't find anything to get improved with the class... Nice way to prove how Op'd u guys are.

http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55


Windwalkr posted:

The delve on the DDs was upgraded by about 25% not too long ago (relatively speaking of course) so I have very little hope of that happening. Of course that doesn't mean I won't include it in the report. I personally feel they're pretty much right where they should be for being instants.

With the strength of over-charmed pets, and even some level 50 pets, I also have little hope for defensive improvements TBH. The more melee defense we get (even just Parry spec), the more we're able to hide behind that defense and let the pet hit the opponent in the rear arc. The ablative was also updated when the DDs were, to the current 120 delve with 30% absorption. In 8v8 melee defense is also pretty irrelevant to the role of a Minstrel, so again I don't see Mythic caving in here but I'll certainly relay your thoughts.

A lot of our defense comes from our CC and ablative. I think that's how Mythic probably sees this class being different from other melee classes, and that explains how we ended up getting our RR5 boosted so nicely. That alone is sometimes pretty incredible defense. (I have done this myself a time or two, but last night I watched an entire FG of Mids --who ran dab smack into a solo pet Minstrel-- get PBAE Messed by his RR5. They chose not to blow purge on a single Minstrel, and he went on his marry way and got away scott free. Talk about defense! ;-) )


Keep them coming though, I am grateful for all your feedback. (Just trying to temper your hopes with what my personal opinion on the matter is, just for the sake of discussion. My opinion, however, has no more weight then your own with this report for Mythic. And as you well know, the weight of these reports is limited anyway.)



http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55



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ckgreed  1 star
Posts: 99
Registered: 2005-11-28 14:39:22
Jocke-Percival posted:

Silverbolt999 posted:

Even TL for Minst can't find anything to get improved with the class... Nice way to prove how Op'd u guys are.

http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55


Windwalkr posted:

The delve on the DDs was upgraded by about 25% not too long ago (relatively speaking of course) so I have very little hope of that happening. Of course that doesn't mean I won't include it in the report. I personally feel they're pretty much right where they should be for being instants.

With the strength of over-charmed pets, and even some level 50 pets, I also have little hope for defensive improvements TBH. The more melee defense we get (even just Parry spec), the more we're able to hide behind that defense and let the pet hit the opponent in the rear arc. The ablative was also updated when the DDs were, to the current 120 delve with 30% absorption. In 8v8 melee defense is also pretty irrelevant to the role of a Minstrel, so again I don't see Mythic caving in here but I'll certainly relay your thoughts.

A lot of our defense comes from our CC and ablative. I think that's how Mythic probably sees this class being different from other melee classes, and that explains how we ended up getting our RR5 boosted so nicely. That alone is sometimes pretty incredible defense. (I have done this myself a time or two, but last night I watched an entire FG of Mids --who ran dab smack into a solo pet Minstrel-- get PBAE Messed by his RR5. They chose not to blow purge on a single Minstrel, and he went on his marry way and got away scott free. Talk about defense! ;-) )


Keep them coming though, I am grateful for all your feedback. (Just trying to temper your hopes with what my personal opinion on the matter is, just for the sake of discussion. My opinion, however, has no more weight then your own with this report for Mythic. And as you well know, the weight of these reports is limited anyway.)



http://vnboards.ign.com/albion_stealther_professions/b20906/114870881/p1/?55



With that logic RM's must be hell of OP as they dont need any thing either and havent for YEARS.



you've heard of dakkon rockblade, too? he didn't get a tower named after him for nothing.

bolts at caster speed = op

 

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SairOfPalo  1 star
Posts: 62
Registered: 2006-5-15 01:02:31
AFAIK minstrel flute mezz is affected by dex and casting speed, but the animation is not. ie. the minstrel casts the spell before the animation ends. ie, you aren't actually interrupting them. Also, if the song is a certain % finished, it will auto finish if you CC them. ie the song will pulse when they are un-cc'ed. 1 more thing. Minstrels can start a mezz pulse and then go out of LOS. When you pop back into LOS, you are insta mezzed. (Great trick to use at water lines) When the song is trying to pulse, however, it completely jacks up anything else the minstrel is trying to do. (Have to switch to S/S to get it to stop. Similar to lulling warlocks while loading chambers.)

You have been schooled in flute mezz.

 

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