josh21193 posted:

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Wasn't Mark Jacobs whole problem like trying to make a "WOW Daoc hybrid clone"?

[colorurple] No. [/color]


He ditched Daoc so fast when he seen the succes of WOW......

[colorurple] WoW came out shortly after TOA but long before TOA (before SI) there was a lot known about WoW. Remember that WoW had a very long beta.


Also, There were many expansions after WoW came out so I would not say that MJ ditched DAoC after WoW was seen to be a success. [/color]


I mean hell Warhammer online was order and destruction.... wow is horde alliance... how much of a clone are you trying to make?

[colorurple] WarHammer was made based on a very popular board game.

www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=9300005

There were some things MJ copied from WoW and some that MJ made up for the MMO but a great deal in WH came from the board game.

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Warhammer was a massive fail... even though it hit 1 mil copies sold.... it was down to 300k subs after like the first month or 2.


I really hate the "post WOW MMORPG game world".


My 2 cents~~~~~~

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Semi4 posted:

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I mostly agree. Sequels to western MMO’s do not work and with the existing mindset of the typical game developer, DAoC 2 would go nowhere.

But, and I have no proof as this is just an opinion but the opinion is based on what is actually happening in the game world, the reason that sequels fail is because the makers of the sequel have no clue what the customers need. One reason developers make a sequel is because they do not know what to make and are hoping to cash in a bit on the original title. If the game makers ever actually figured out what the customers need in a MMO, then the paradigm shifts.

Also, there is such a huge quantity of change that is needed to make DAoC viable again the only way to implement the massive amount of change, and the only viable way to get players to accept the massive changes/rollback of problem features (no bots, no PLing, etc. . . ), would be to have players start over on a new set of servers in a new iteration of the game.

The new game need not be promoted as DAoC 2. It would be better if it were advertised as a new game that just happened to contain those features from DAoC that developers found were the most loved by players. The game could be called “The Golden Age of Camelot” or “Arthur’s Legacy” or The Battle for Camelot” or etc. . . .

If we leave reality behind just a tiny little bit and give Mythic more insight and intelligence than they actually have, an iteration of DAoC (if called something completely different) could actually be a viable and very profitable/popular game. DAoC done correctly still has huge potential because no company has yet to do it correctly.

But in today’s reality, you are completely correct that there do not seem to be any game developers that have the necessary insight into what the customer needs and consequently any attempt to make DAoC2 would fail.

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