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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. [Locked] |
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
BroKoS posted:
I am not saying the things are overpowered, underpowered or just right. What I am saying is there has always been and unfortunately seems there will always be a total lack of respect by the developers. It's pretty simple really, at least for everyone I know that does business. You make something, put it out there then stand behind it. Dont screw some people because you messed up. Eventually it would have all evened out.
If developers actually thought like that then the original Starcraft would have never become the bastion of balance it's recognized as today. If Mythic thought like that then everyone would be playing Zerkers, SBs, and Healers. Leaving a game horrifically unbalanced just so you don't upset the people who are abusing that unbalance seems like it would be far more harmful than fixing it.
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PowPowParn  Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
BroKoS posted:
I am not saying the things are overpowered, underpowered or just right. What I am saying is there has always been and unfortunately seems there will always be a total lack of respect by the developers. It's pretty simple really, at least for everyone I know that does business. You make something, put it out there then stand behind it. Dont screw some people because you messed up. Eventually it would have all evened out. High level players who care about the game and try and do the best they can would get the weapons. It is called a GOAL. Something people have tried to do ever since God made peeps. It is just so annoying that these developers can do whatever they want, whenever they want and just say, "Balance!" It has always been the way they cover their own screw-ups. Like I say, I wish I could afford to buy the company and fired these people and put some in with good common sense, and a respect for the players.
qq that
qq less
i got 18 BoI and i think 7? conflags across the 3 realms~
bought only the first 2 i had on my zerker, rest i farmed. why? because i wanted the pet procs because their OP. when the fucking pet out styledamages my thane in melee, yea i think there needs to be a fix.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
BroKoS posted:
I am not saying the things are overpowered, underpowered or just right. What I am saying is there has always been and unfortunately seems there will always be a total lack of respect by the developers. It's pretty simple really, at least for everyone I know that does business. You make something, put it out there then stand behind it. Dont screw some people because you messed up. Eventually it would have all evened out. High level players who care about the game and try and do the best they can would get the weapons. It is called a GOAL. Something people have tried to do ever since God made peeps. It is just so annoying that these developers can do whatever they want, whenever they want and just say, "Balance!" It has always been the way they cover their own screw-ups. Like I say, I wish I could afford to buy the company and fired these people and put some in with good common sense, and a respect for the players.
qq that
I totaly agree! i mean c'mon lots of warlocks and bainshees played their chars to high RR and then they got nerfed wtf? REMOVE ALL NERFS AND BRING THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY WHERE!
No!
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
Can someone post exactly what's changing?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
http://darkageofcamelot.com/content/patch-notes-1109b
patch notes posted:
The following Master Level 10 Encounter Weapons have had their magical procs adjusted:
* Astral Mace / Blade of Illusions – the pet these weapons summon has been decreased from level 50 to level 44.
* Astral Voltaic Great Hammer / Great Sword / War Pick / Hooked Spear / Battle Spear – the pet these weapons summon has been decreased from level 50 to level 44. Additionally, the spell this pet casts has had its damage value lowered slightly, and the radius on this spell has been decreased from 350 units to 250 units.
* Astral Conflagrant Short Sword / Hatchet – the pet these weapons summon has been decreased from level 50 to level 44. Additionally, the defensive spell this pet casts has been changed from a DoT to a direct damage spell.
Notsoserious posted this on the alb stealther board:
Notsoserious posted:
Just did some testing on pendragon.
BoI hits for about 50 now
After rib sep on my bot it did 80-100 damage
Most attacks were blocked by the fully buffed cleric when in front of the target
Lightning procs do about 50-80ish damage per cast.
He later said this doesn't include the essence resist buff, and that the pets' duration may have been reduced as well.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
I'll still run the astral spear...keep a legendary in the pack too.
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ArcApt  Posts: 52
Registered: 2006-2-15 16:57:37
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
SharpAnubis462 posted:
Notsoserious posted this on the alb stealther board:
Notsoserious posted:
Just did some testing on pendragon.
BoI hits for about 50 now
After rib sep on my bot it did 80-100 damage
Most attacks were blocked by the fully buffed cleric when in front of the target
Lightning procs do about 50-80ish damage per cast.
He later said this doesn't include the essence resist buff, and that the pets' duration may have been reduced as well.
I checked it out myself on pendragon a few hours ago: 50 for BoI was in the lower end of the spectrum(bad variance+non style from pet) on my bot( scale w/ou spec AF). I saw a maximum of 100 on cloth still w/o spec AF. Generally, it was 50~80 same as the astral spear pets. I also checked the duration, which remained identical.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
valmar_kw posted:
Everything that's been nerfed in the game is whined about by people that strongly benefited from the overpoweredness. Hell, Zerks and SBs cried for years saying their damage pre-1.62 was "fine and balanced" and that the nerf shouldn't have happened.
While the nerf may end up being too much, it needed to happen.
And yes, I have run these weapons on two of my assassins - and while it was neat to see my weapon procs completely destroy someone, I'm happy it is getting nerfed.
yes they are uber and ever too much. for you that's a good player the nerf will not affect your play style, but get killed by really bad players,just because this shit proc on you.
I played my SB for a week before stop play him, till a get the Ml10 weapons for him.(but he was always a char for when you log earlier and wait ppl log in.)
My zerk only have HoI, yes i like Hammers :]P , the pets make the diference on kill someone or when they triple proc on a healer
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Grimarre Posts: 36
Registered: 2010-1-24 22:35:01
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
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So I went and sold my illusions and conflag for 320p.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Astral Conflag and Illusions Nerfed - not worth putting in my template anymore.. |
BroKoS posted:
I am not saying the things are overpowered, underpowered or just right. What I am saying is there has always been and unfortunately seems there will always be a total lack of respect by the developers. It's pretty simple really, at least for everyone I know that does business. You make something, put it out there then stand behind it. Dont screw some people because you messed up. Eventually it would have all evened out. High level players who care about the game and try and do the best they can would get the weapons. It is called a GOAL. Something people have tried to do ever since God made peeps. It is just so annoying that these developers can do whatever they want, whenever they want and just say, "Balance!" It has always been the way they cover their own screw-ups. Like I say, I wish I could afford to buy the company and fired these people and put some in with good common sense, and a respect for the players.
qq that
-First of all,this is not business,this is ingame. There are 48 classes in this game. Balance is an issue that has to be taken seriously. You can make some sort of feature or weapon and then test it and release it but you can only be sure how blanced it is by obersrving it in game and seeing what it does to the over balance of gameplay. Adjustments have to be made some times,its painful but part of the process.
- Seondly define high level players? you think everyone who owns these swords spends hours and hours farming plat just so they an buy this weapon? off course not,some win it in rolls and other just buy chinese plat to get them,your making it sound like this is some epic chore players have to endure to get these weapons.Your so alled GOAL can easily be acheived by going to a gold farm site,clicking a few times and buying your plat. big goals there.
- Thirdly,my guess is that you own these swords and they are putting a dent on your little iwin weapon and thats why you are whining so often about this nerf.Its funny you mention respect,what about respet of players who are getting killed by overpowered weapons and abilities because they play a different class that doesnt have acess to these weapons.
so whine some more,i think these are still great weapons and if it was up to me id nerf them some more.
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