Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
hi there i played daoc from right after SI came out untill a month or 2 after catacombs.
i have a 50 sorc,ds necro and heretic. i enjoyed playing those classes very much.
ive been reading the boards the last couple of weeks and toying with the idea of coming back.
ive been playing alot of other games to try and fill the hole that quitting daoc left.
/fail
im now coming back and the one of the main things that helped consumed me and immersed me into the game was the music, and the way it started actually feeling like day and night when i was playing due to the lighting and the graphic in the game.
i played back when it took FOREVER to get to 50. and with 3 50's u can see that ive spent alot of time in the game.
i never in 1 million years thought that a GAME could do things like that to somebody.
its a shame that its dying slowly and painfully.
i told myself that if i came back just for a month, i would have at least tasted
that feeling i got so many years ago
when i played.
i might stay longer, but im worried by what everyone is saying, that this game is tottally different than what
it once was.
how much has changed?
is the music the same?
is thid still the funnest place to pvp(if in your opinion it was before)
is there still a /level?
with the classes ive spoken of, will it be hard to get a guild on this diet daoc?
with what im hoping to gain from playing once more, in your opinion, will
i be disappointed?
im sorry for my long windedness, and my bad grammar and weird typing.
ive been saving up questions the more i read the boards and finally
decided to make an account and ask these things of the remaining
daoc players here.
oh and are there alot of old school players that still play?
or have they all left due to the state of the game?
ok im done. i swear....for now.
thanks for your time.
ive already resubbed by this point. i just want to know what to expect.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
makaab7414 posted: how much has changed? Lots. Too much changed to list it all. Leveling is easy-mode. Gear/ml's are easier to get and has higher utility so your able to template better. classes have changed a bit. People can still be jerks or very helpful, very little in-between.
is the music the same? I don't know. Probably. I turn music off and rock my own music in the background. Much better than hearing the same music for years.
is thid still the funnest place to pvp(if in your opinion it was before) At times it can be fun, but so can molvik. Feels different than it used to. Seems like less population, but more elitist roaming there than there once was.
is there still a /level? Nope, but you can get to 20 fairly quickly; couple hours if power leveled.
with the classes ive spoken of, will it be hard to get a guild on this diet daoc? About the same for all. there's always guilds looking for more people
with what im hoping to gain from playing once more, in your opinion, will
i be disappointed? If your looking to get exactly what you once had, yes you will be disappointed. If you're wanting to level new classes to try them, you'll enjoy how easy it is compared to how it once was. (leveling in BG's is super fast via quests) PVP is still good. Lots of zerging lately and good small groups running. Solo is suffering a little, but it's still there.
im sorry for my long windedness, and my bad grammar and weird typing.
ive been saving up questions the more i read the boards and finally
decided to make an account and ask these things of the remaining
daoc players here.
oh and are there alot of old school players that still play?
or have they all left due to the state of the game? Every player is an old-school player. We typically don't get new people, mostly old-school people coming back to try it again. The server is US and Europe servers combined, so there's a very diverse group of people.
ok im done. i swear....for now.
thanks for your time.
ive already resubbed by this point. i just want to know what to expect. Welcome Back
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
wow, thanks very much for hitting all my points.
im really looking forward to this now.
you say there are alot of zergs.
are zergs still 40-50 ppl vs 40-50 ppl at a standstill location for hours?
if so, i used to love that part. it made me think of how it would be in medievel(sp) times.
im glad to hear there are still old school players.
the quick leveling now might take away from the game though, i used to love waiting for friends to log on and set up a grp in ac, or any other dungeon we might be camping in.
is DF still a popular place? ive never found a dungeon in any other game to even come close to touching that place.
i liked when you got the message saying that your realm has lost DF and everyone was looking over theyre shoulders for 45 minutes before the cleaning crew came through.
my wife is tired of me talking aboutthis game haha.
anyway, yea. thanks for the reply. and for future replies as well.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
makaab7414 posted: wow, thanks very much for hitting all my points.
im really looking forward to this now.
you say there are alot of zergs.
are zergs still 40-50 ppl vs 40-50 ppl at a standstill location for hours? Only at keeps most of the time there is roaming unless you are bridge camping
if so, i used to love that part. it made me think of how it would be in medievel(sp) times.
im glad to hear there are still old school players.
the quick leveling now might take away from the game though, i used to love waiting for friends to log on and set up a grp in ac, or any other dungeon we might be camping in. Grouping is still the best way to level just not so many do it anymore due to the fact most people left have multiple 50's and just power level
is DF still a popular place? ive never found a dungeon in any other game to even come close to touching that place.
i liked when you got the message saying that your realm has lost DF and everyone was looking over theyre shoulders for 45 minutes before the cleaning crew came through. Not so much anymore but it can still be ok xp. The battlegrounds are the best xp till 40 and there is pvp in them so it can be a good break form the grind
my wife is tired of me talking aboutthis game haha.
anyway, yea. thanks for the reply. and for future replies as well.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
makaab7414 posted: hi there i played daoc from right after SI came out untill a month or 2 after catacombs.
i have a 50 sorc,ds necro and heretic. i enjoyed playing those classes very much.
ive been reading the boards the last couple of weeks and toying with the idea of coming back.
ive been playing alot of other games to try and fill the hole that quitting daoc left.
/fail
im now coming back and the one of the main things that helped consumed me and immersed me into the game was the music, and the way it started actually feeling like day and night when i was playing due to the lighting and the graphic in the game.
i played back when it took FOREVER to get to 50. and with 3 50's u can see that ive spent alot of time in the game.
i never in 1 million years thought that a GAME could do things like that to somebody.
its a shame that its dying slowly and painfully.
i told myself that if i came back just for a month, i would have at least tasted
that feeling i got so many years ago
when i played.
i might stay longer, but im worried by what everyone is saying, that this game is tottally different than what
it once was.
how much has changed?
A huge amount has changed...really too much to say since then. Mechanically, the basics are still the same. Population wise, there's a lot of elitism. There aren't many exp groups any more, mostly people PL new toons. As far as RvR goes in NF, there's a lot of coast guarding and zerging keeps. There's not so much battles like the old frontiers mile gate standoffs. True 8v8 is mostly dead, there are very few set 8 mans that roam anymore...it's mostly pugs (pick up groups). There's also the Labyrinth. It's kinda like a level 50 battleground fought in a dungeon. It's chaotic, there's very little honor, and the talent level required to play there is lower. I like it because I am too lazy to play NF, and I like the constant action. A lot of other people don't like it and look down on labrats as a lower form of life.
Oh yes, there are champ levels now too. I think those came out after you left. Now you can get champ weapons which are usually pretty nice at CL5 (CL3 if you do the quests) and you can train some basic skills from other base classes. Your sorc for example, at CL3 gets any one handed weapon, small shield and can train fighter or healer base skills. Also, the epics have been updated, you can buy MLs and Artifacts with atlantean glass or bounty points, and dragon loot with scales. I'll probably keep thinking of things, so I will just quit listing new things now.
is the music the same?
I don't know I hate the in game music and turn that crap off.
is thid still the funnest place to pvp(if in your opinion it was before)
Thid isn't as fun as it used to be. Mid mostly has broken it with bonedancers and insta-win classes. There's a lot more elitist trash in there now who are all about being a "somebody" even if it's only thid. The regs mostly run around with high end templates, and those who arent stealthers band together with the other regs and roll over all the newbs. For all it's flaws, I like thid (play a nightshade there) far better then Molvik. Thid reminds me of OF. I loathe molvik, but many people consider it the best RvR in game. I spend most of my time running the the labby on alb with my guildies.
is there still a /level?
No, this was removed and is highly unlikely to come back.
with the classes ive spoken of, will it be hard to get a guild on this diet daoc?
You should be fine. There are always guilds in alb recruiting for new people. If you stand in Camelot for 20 minutes and don't see spam, you weren't paying attention. There's also a heretic only guild, Fallen Clerics around. I think they take all heretics but I am not sure what their policy is. As far as groups go, the sorc will be desired in RvR, and the heretic for ML10, provided you get a greater focal myth (and are caster spec). Melee tics suck. Necros...eh, nobody really WANTS them for anything (other then PLing), but everyone HAS one so it wont be held against you.
with what im hoping to gain from playing once more, in your opinion, will
i be disappointed?
The feeling is not what it was. It's still a fun game if you manage your expectations and adapt to how the game is rather then yearn for what was. Only you can answer this question really.
im sorry for my long windedness, and my bad grammar and weird typing.
ive been saving up questions the more i read the boards and finally
decided to make an account and ask these things of the remaining
daoc players here.
oh and are there alot of old school players that still play?
or have they all left due to the state of the game?
Most of the players left are in some way an old school player. I've been around since beta and there are other beta testers left as well. Most of the players left are the ones who just haven't found a way to move on yet...we haven't gotten significant numbers of new players in years.
ok im done. i swear....for now.
thanks for your time.
ive already resubbed by this point. i just want to know what to expect.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
so wait, you can have other classes base skills now? or am i misunderstanding. to be honest alot of what your saying is fine by me for what has changed. i just will be happy to revisit old dungeons n stuff. one of the first things ill do is probably take a small tour of the alb counry.
but keeps and tower zergs are fine by me. i know ill probably have to get used to the fast pace of things.
one more question,
are ML's and champion levels soloable now? or do u still need a group for alot of things?
oh and are the mob just as difficult? or do they just give more xp?
im kind of confused about the more/faster xp thing.
i know quests and catacomb instances give good xp, but does the quick xp u speak about come from
the mob giving more xp? or from daoc having more quests?
its still a week before i can play, so im just passing the time getting all the info i can from players point of view.
im sorry if all the questions are annoying.
its just that i busted a$$ for a while on my toons and i wanna get a good grip on what im coming back to,
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
makaab7414 posted: so wait, you can have other classes base skills now? or am i misunderstanding. to be honest alot of what your saying is fine by me for what has changed. i just will be happy to revisit old dungeons n stuff. one of the first things ill do is probably take a small tour of the alb counry.
No, you are not misunderstanding. My sorc can heal. Not well, its like 75 points but a heal none the less. I can also cast resist buffs.
but keeps and tower zergs are fine by me. i know ill probably have to get used to the fast pace of things.
one more question,
are ML's and champion levels soloable now? or do u still need a group for alot of things?
Very few people actually DO the MLs anymore. Most people buy them, either with Atlantean Glass or with bounty points. The champion quests...I can't remember if all are soloable or not, I haven't done them for years. As for getting CL exp, once you hit 50 you get xl exp for killing mobs, any mobs and in RvR...so yes they are soloable. I just dont know about the quests
oh and are the mob just as difficult? or do they just give more xp?
Mobs haven't changed, but our gear has, as has our knowledge. Our characters are far more powerful then they were in the old days, while the mobs have stayed about the same. There are also task dungeons, and every week you get a free level provided you have made a level on your own. In PvP areas such as BGs and frontier, the mobs are worth more exp. There are also quests in the BGs for massive exp.
im kind of confused about the more/faster xp thing.
i know quests and catacomb instances give good xp, but does the quick xp u speak about come from
the mob giving more xp? or from daoc having more quests?
A little of both really, coupled with the free levels. To get the best exp though, you have to risk the frontiers and getting ganked. IIRC, the old world has a bonus as well, but it's not as good as in PvP areas. You can exp fairly quickly without ever doing a quest or PvP zone...you just need decent gear...and for pve thats not too hard. You should be able to get the important stuff pretty cheap and easy in housing.
its still a week before i can play, so im just passing the time getting all the info i can from players point of view.
im sorry if all the questions are annoying.
Not at all, welcome back. We need all the players we can get.
its just that i busted a$$ for a while on my toons and i wanna get a good grip on what im coming back to,
thanks for your patience
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
p.s., if its not already too late, don't transfer to Ywain1. Pick any other Ywain server, because about 60% of the population decided to move there (why not right?), and then everyone realized housing is full on Ywain1, so when you buy a house you have to make an Alt on another Ywain#, hand him some plats, and buy the house there. Not actually a big deal, but just saying, don't go to Ywain1 if you haven't already.
By the way, you just gave me the great idea to turn my music back on. For years I had it shut off cuz sometimes I would use my own music, but now I really miss the old daoc music.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
yes, another returning player...question(s)
DoorknobMLF posted: p.s., if its not already too late, don't transfer to Ywain1. Pick any other Ywain server, because about 60% of the population decided to move there (why not right?), and then everyone realized housing is full on Ywain1, so when you buy a house you have to make an Alt on another Ywain#, hand him some plats, and buy the house there. Not actually a big deal, but just saying, don't go to Ywain1 if you haven't already.
By the way, you just gave me the great idea to turn my music back on. For years I had it shut off cuz sometimes I would use my own music, but now I really miss the old daoc music.
This. Ywain10 is pretty crappy too. Pick one in the middle and you'll have a better chance of getting a decent lot.
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