Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
I'd like to see a revision of the UI, would help bring in new and old customers.
Would love to see DAoC 2.0 done, not looking for a whole new game, just update DAoC the way it currently is, with bug fixes, UI changes, Mail system, mouse keybinds correctly/controls.
Wish there was more advertisement for DAoC, yes, the only time you will ever hear me ask for an ad, this is a great game, always has been, not enough advertisement around for it IMO, make some money so you can hire more people to help work on DAoC.
I just came back to the game 2 weeks ago after being gone for 5 years, I missed this game, it is my home, my first mmo, after taking this time trying to catch up on what the hell is going on, I started to call old friends in, I will single handedly message, email, call and text every old schooler I know and try to get them back, already being quite successful, would like to see more of this happening and see more old faces again.
I wish the Herald was fixed.
Wish there was a longer login time from one realm to the other, want to see comradery again within our own realms, nothing worse than not being able to use /bg the way it used to be, everyone thinking everyone else is a spy. Some of this we need to change on our own.
These are things on the top of my head, I'll have to post more when I remember it.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
I'm with ya. Been playing since day 1 and have been begging for new UI since '04. Also, I agree with the ADs. Now that EA/Bioware are in control, it's not like in the old days with Mythic Entertainment just didn't have the money lying around to throw very many ads out. I mean, even small ads. Overhaul of the game would be nice - if they could just do little things to draw back old players and make it interesting for new ones too, they could use that extra cash to overhaul and promote the game until it had a solid subscriber base again.
But honestly, I think subs are going up, unless maybe these last couple weeks were a bunch of 14-Day trial people logging in, because Albion had about 1300 on yesterday. Just Alb.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
Been out due to cold and fever, so I've had time to think more on this subject.
Would like to see Vanish be a part of NS base ability. Put a high RUT on it if need be 30 mins? 20 mins? I feel it should be base spec for that class.
I still wish something could be done about the UI/Keybinds with all the CL specs, ML spells, class abilities and ra's I feel like my keyboard is on overload and not all things can be bound correctly or the way I want them to be bound.
Currently the price of most items is super inflated, add that to the seasonal items, after coming back to the game 5 years later, I can't afford to make a top notch temp, and thats not even thinking about any new blood that comes into the game, not knowing what the hell is going on game wise, crafting wise, we need an over haul on the game almost at this point.. or Herald to be fixed ASAP.
I wish we leveled a bit slower and had to craft some lower level gear or create some sort of money sink to balance out end game prices, and just let people make friends again, instead of speed to the end and not know anyone.
Until I think of more! /thoughts off
etilader Title: Oldest Player in DAoC
Posts: 55 Registered: 2003-3-12 17:04:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
Sinsationz posted: I still wish something could be done about the UI/Keybinds with all the CL specs, ML spells, class abilities and ra's I feel like my keyboard is on overload and not all things can be bound correctly or the way I want them to be bound.
What are you trying to do that you can't? I find the qbind'ing and UI in daoc much better then a lot of games. Are you using a custom UI?
Sinsationz posted: Currently the price of most items is super inflated, add that to the seasonal items, after coming back to the game 5 years later, I can't afford to make a top notch temp, and thats not even thinking about any new blood that comes into the game, not knowing what the hell is going on game wise, crafting wise, we need an over haul on the game almost at this point.. or Herald to be fixed ASAP.
I think the problem here is that you feel you must have the top notch template when you first start out. You can get a character templated for reasonable prices and then build from that over time. People that just start out should not have the absolute best things as soon as they hit 50 imo. I do agree that things are over priced a lot of the time but making money in this game isn't as hard as some people want to think.
Sinsationz posted: I wish we leveled a bit slower and had to craft some lower level gear or create some sort of money sink to balance out end game prices, and just let people make friends again, instead of speed to the end and not know anyone.
I miss the old community as much as the next guy but those days are past us. I don't believe you can rebuild the old community at this point in the game. The major selling point of this game is the pvp and anything you do to slow down getting there wouldn't help get new blood into the game. Finding a good guild or creating one is your best bet for this.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
etilader posted: What are you trying to do that you can't? I find the qbind'ing and UI in daoc much better then a lot of games. Are you using a custom UI?
Some of the f-keys, I'd like to use the numpad for a few things as well, like cl buffs, ability buffs but you can't bind that way, or use numlock to bind to things when numlock is depressed etc. No, not using a custom UI at all.
etilader posted: I think the problem here is that you feel you must have the top notch template when you first start out. You can get a character templated for reasonable prices and then build from that over time. People that just start out should not have the absolute best things as soon as they hit 50 imo. I do agree that things are over priced a lot of the time but making money in this game isn't as hard as some people want to think.
I see your point, but you must realize not many people including myself like to pve/farm nor know where to start to begin to farm. Also, I'm basically speaking or thinking about this from my stealthers POV, to be solo out there in rvr as a ns, its next to impossible to get many rps, I don't like to group with a bunch of other stealthers. Maybe times have changed and the community has moved beyond that of where I left off, I don't want to have to group with more than 1 or 2 other people at most but with a "reasonable template" that you speak of, is really not that great when trying to solo. Thinking about it a bit more, I came into the game with under 1p, no house, I went to the CM only to find the reasonable items selling for 3p +, the scales and glass that I could sell for gold, I had to use for my own template, thats a lot of farming for a long time to get out there to rvr, especially with no buffs, might be able to find a grp thats scale farming, but not from my experience there weren't a lot, the groups I did find wiped to stupid crap, they would try to kill the mini princes and die. lol
etilader posted: I miss the old community as much as the next guy but those days are past us. I don't believe you can rebuild the old community at this point in the game. The major selling point of this game is the pvp and anything you do to slow down getting there wouldn't help get new blood into the game. Finding a good guild or creating one is your best bet for this.
Finding a good guild.. on hib side? Not knowing anyone, or just coming into the game thats pretty hard, especially when you have standards. lol Just any random guild won't do, not sure where you are finding a good guild coming into the game from being gone for years or a new DAoC'r.. let me know. Creating a new guild would be okay, but, I wouldn't want to run a guild, too much bs involved and you need to be somewhat knowledgeable anyway imo, I wouldn't want to lead a guild not knowing the current ins and outs of the game, that wouldn't be fair to anyone invited to join the guild either.
etilader Title: Oldest Player in DAoC
Posts: 55 Registered: 2003-3-12 17:04:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Random thoughts. Things I'd like to see.
Sinsationz posted:
etilader posted: What are you trying to do that you can't? I find the qbind'ing and UI in daoc much better then a lot of games. Are you using a custom UI?
Some of the f-keys, I'd like to use the numpad for a few things as well, like cl buffs, ability buffs but you can't bind that way, or use numlock to bind to things when numlock is depressed etc. No, not using a custom UI at all.
I think maybe you just need to modify your play slightly and you would see that there are plenty of qbinds available. This video explains it very nicely. Hopefully once you watch it you will understand why you don't need numpad keybinds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_k83Yiy1A
As far as UI's you need to get a custom one. The default one is lacking in many ways. I personally use Gor's version of the Ghost UI. It can be found here: http://gor.etilader.com/custom.zip
I know a lot of people prefer Bob's UI because it has tons of customization options. You can find it by searching around VN.
etilader posted: I think the problem here is that you feel you must have the top notch template when you first start out. You can get a character templated for reasonable prices and then build from that over time. People that just start out should not have the absolute best things as soon as they hit 50 imo. I do agree that things are over priced a lot of the time but making money in this game isn't as hard as some people want to think.
I see your point, but you must realize not many people including myself like to pve/farm nor know where to start to begin to farm. Also, I'm basically speaking or thinking about this from my stealthers POV, to be solo out there in rvr as a ns, its next to impossible to get many rps, I don't like to group with a bunch of other stealthers. Maybe times have changed and the community has moved beyond that of where I left off, I don't want to have to group with more than 1 or 2 other people at most but with a "reasonable template" that you speak of, is really not that great when trying to solo. Thinking about it a bit more, I came into the game with under 1p, no house, I went to the CM only to find the reasonable items selling for 3p +, the scales and glass that I could sell for gold, I had to use for my own template, thats a lot of farming for a long time to get out there to rvr, especially with no buffs, might be able to find a grp thats scale farming, but not from my experience there weren't a lot, the groups I did find wiped to stupid crap, they would try to kill the mini princes and die. lol
You can't say you want a better community and then choose to play a class that by design doesn't want to group. I admit that things are bad for stealthers trying to roll up fresh in this game. For classes like healers/casters/tanks it's not nearly as bad imo. I'm not saying you can make a minimum template and go solo effectively. I'm saying you can get a template relatively cheap that allows you to group up and do things. There is no WoWArmory here telling everyone that forms groups that you don't have the best template available. The only way they will know is if you tell them. I get that you don't want to pve for hours on end but that is how you get plat to buy things. Glass/scales can be gotten solo.
I have lots of characters on all 3 realms and have made lots of realm points on all of them and if you saw some of the templates you would laugh.
etilader posted: I miss the old community as much as the next guy but those days are past us. I don't believe you can rebuild the old community at this point in the game. The major selling point of this game is the pvp and anything you do to slow down getting there wouldn't help get new blood into the game. Finding a good guild or creating one is your best bet for this.
Finding a good guild.. on hib side? Not knowing anyone, or just coming into the game thats pretty hard, especially when you have standards. lol Just any random guild won't do, not sure where you are finding a good guild coming into the game from being gone for years or a new DAoC'r.. let me know. Creating a new guild would be okay, but, I wouldn't want to run a guild, too much bs involved and you need to be somewhat knowledgeable anyway imo, I wouldn't want to lead a guild not knowing the current ins and outs of the game, that wouldn't be fair to anyone invited to join the guild either.
There are lots of guilds on hib that are always looking for new members. Have you asked around? Property of Beib invites anyone I heard. Finding a good guild does take some time but there are plenty available. What they aren't going to do is just run up and throw you a random invite. You do have to work at making relationships with people that are in guilds.
Also saying you want a better community and then saying you don't want to work on making one is a bit silly. Community is build by the players.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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Sounds like from the recent responses, you set your standards way to high and are unrealistic.. Join an active guild.. There's plenty of good people on Hib that would love to help new players out.. They may not be the cream of the crop in terms of pvp.. but guess what, Daoc , it doesn't matter.. They can still go out and achieve goals and make realm points all the same. Trying to set expectations of being top-dog at the get go is not likely.. especially for a stealther..
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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Melt304 posted: Sounds like from the recent responses, you set your standards way to high and are unrealistic.. Join an active guild.. There's plenty of good people on Hib that would love to help new players out.. They may not be the cream of the crop in terms of pvp.. but guess what, Daoc , it doesn't matter.. They can still go out and achieve goals and make realm points all the same. Trying to set expectations of being top-dog at the get go is not likely.. especially for a stealther..
Or you could play Mordred and do all that stuff.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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etilader posted:
Sinsationz posted:
etilader posted: What are you trying to do that you can't? I find the qbind'ing and UI in daoc much better then a lot of games. Are you using a custom UI?
Some of the f-keys, I'd like to use the numpad for a few things as well, like cl buffs, ability buffs but you can't bind that way, or use numlock to bind to things when numlock is depressed etc. No, not using a custom UI at all.
I think maybe you just need to modify your play slightly and you would see that there are plenty of qbinds available. This video explains it very nicely. Hopefully once you watch it you will understand why you don't need numpad keybinds.
As far as UI's you need to get a custom one. The default one is lacking in many ways. I personally use Gor's version of the Ghost UI. It can be found here:
I know a lot of people prefer Bob's UI because it has tons of customization options. You can find it by searching around VN.
[colorurple] Sinsationz is correct, the UI is not good. Also, while a custom UI helps, if the basic programming for the basic UI does not allow something, like certain key binds, then a custom UI also is limited by those same restrictions. Sinsationz, you have identified a challenge that many who come from other games also find to be a hindrance, it is sad that this challenge is something that you will need to learn to live with.
But etilader is very correct, even though you will find limitations with a custom UI, you will find that a custom UI is much nicer than the default UI.[/color]
etilader posted: I think the problem here is that you feel you must have the top notch template when you first start out. You can get a character templated for reasonable prices and then build from that over time. People that just start out should not have the absolute best things as soon as they hit 50 imo. I do agree that things are over priced a lot of the time but making money in this game isn't as hard as some people want to think.
I see your point, but you must realize not many people including myself like to pve/farm nor know where to start to begin to farm. Also, I'm basically speaking or thinking about this from my stealthers POV, to be solo out there in rvr as a ns, its next to impossible to get many rps, I don't like to group with a bunch of other stealthers. Maybe times have changed and the community has moved beyond that of where I left off, I don't want to have to group with more than 1 or 2 other people at most but with a "reasonable template" that you speak of, is really not that great when trying to solo. Thinking about it a bit more, I came into the game with under 1p, no house, I went to the CM only to find the reasonable items selling for 3p +, the scales and glass that I could sell for gold, I had to use for my own template, thats a lot of farming for a long time to get out there to rvr, especially with no buffs, might be able to find a grp thats scale farming, but not from my experience there weren't a lot, the groups I did find wiped to stupid crap, they would try to kill the mini princes and die. Lol
[colorurple]It is another challenge with the game that some characters almost require you to first level a farming toon so that you can outfit the toon that you actually want to play. You have a choice, level the toon you want and put up with the limitations that come with your decision or level another toon type that is easer to level and have an easer time making money. Then, once you have more cash, return to the stealther and have an easer time with the stealther.
Each character will have its own limitations and its own challanges. That is just the way it is.[/color]
You can't say you want a better community and then choose to play a class that by design doesn't want to group. I admit that things are bad for stealthers trying to roll up fresh in this game. For classes like healers/casters/tanks it's not nearly as bad imo. I'm not saying you can make a minimum template and go solo effectively. I'm saying you can get a template relatively cheap that allows you to group up and do things. There is no WoWArmory here telling everyone that forms groups that you don't have the best template available. The only way they will know is if you tell them. I get that you don't want to pve for hours on end but that is how you get plat to buy things. Glass/scales can be gotten solo.
I have lots of characters on all 3 realms and have made lots of realm points on all of them and if you saw some of the templates you would laugh.
etilader posted: I miss the old community as much as the next guy but those days are past us. I don't believe you can rebuild the old community at this point in the game. The major selling point of this game is the pvp and anything you do to slow down getting there wouldn't help get new blood into the game. Finding a good guild or creating one is your best bet for this.
Finding a good guild.. on hib side? Not knowing anyone, or just coming into the game thats pretty hard, especially when you have standards. lol Just any random guild won't do, not sure where you are finding a good guild coming into the game from being gone for years or a new DAoC'r.. let me know. Creating a new guild would be okay, but, I wouldn't want to run a guild, too much bs involved and you need to be somewhat knowledgeable anyway imo, I wouldn't want to lead a guild not knowing the current ins and outs of the game, that wouldn't be fair to anyone invited to join the guild either.
There are lots of guilds on hib that are always looking for new members. Have you asked around? Property of Beib invites anyone I heard. Finding a good guild does take some time but there are plenty available. What they aren't going to do is just run up and throw you a random invite. You do have to work at making relationships with people that are in guilds.
Also saying you want a better community and then saying you don't want to work on making one is a bit silly. Community is build by the players.
[colorurple] I understand the dilemma of finding an appropriate guild. Few players like guild hopping and guilds also do not like it. But there are many tiny guilds, many guilds that are not very active, many guilds that are not family oriented, many guilds that have goals that may conflict with some players, many guilds that have very strict invite rules, many guilds that . . .etc. . . . It can be a pain in the rear but in the end your only option is to start the process of checking out guilds and cut your losses when you identify that the guild is not what you are looking for.
etilader, as for accusing Sinsationz of not wanting to work on making the community better, that is a cheep shot. Not having the time it takes to do a good job running a guild is totally different than not helping the community. There are many ways of helping a guild without being a guild leader. Talk about setting high standards.
Also, that comment about not picking a class that is community oriented, that is a bit silly (sorry but it really is). MMO does not mean grouped all the time. It never has meant that. I had friends in the guild that rarely grouped but they crafted their little hearts out for the guild and they were always on Alliance chat telling jokes, offering advice, discussing the game, etc. . . Being a community person does not mean playing a specific character type, it does not mean being a guild leader, it does not mean being a guild officer and it does not mean being in a group all the time. [/color]
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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Semi, I'm glad you could sit on the fence and see both sides and wasn't biased at all, thank you. You saw many of the points I was trying to make but I didn't articulate them well.
The UI thing, I had tried a few UI's and didn't like any of them, they were bulky or just had a ton of fluff that wasn't needed to the point of just being in the way. I have started to make one of my own that just add's what I'm looking for and that's it, also I had noticed a couple of the UI's added to memory leaks, bah!!
I've played this game and many many others and have obviously changed my keybinds accordingly to make up for it in this game, which is working, but I still have to point out that it could be more fluid, again, Semi, you understood, thank you.
One of my own flaws and I know this about myself is, I'm very very competitive by nature, I want to go all out or go home, so making a top notch template is what I have my hopes set on, its difficult when its almost ridiculous to obtain it coming into the game from a long break. Yes, I have to work to get there, but I had to in the beginning of the game too, only now it takes a whole lot longer. *frustration* lol did I mention I like instant gratification too?
The guild thing, Semi you nailed it, I don't want to hop guilds.. funny thing about all this is, I'm in a guild I'm happy with atm, but, I had joined a guild here only to notice after a day the GM and others not logging on, nobody in the alliance were really talking and definitely didn't answer questions, so I thought the GM had quit or went to play another realm, which I heard was common now, so a couple days go by and I left the guild thinking they were off somewhere else, only to run into that same GM days later asking me why I left, I explain, and she gets.......PISSED, said she went to her uncles funeral, I said I was sorry to hear about it.. didn't know that went on but nobody had left a MOTD or anything, figured she would be ok with that but no, she went on to say "we've done three ML 10's since you've been gone, but, okay, have fun in your new guild" I sat there like .. wtf all over my face, and just thought, okay, shes crazy and I'll move on, only to find her talking about me as if I was a heathen to other people, I def wanted to avoid that in the future, so I found a new guild, was there a lot longer, that wasn't working out, found the one I'm in now and was happy, only to find that the GM of the last guild was trying her hardest to get me kicked out of the new one and alliance.. unbelievable. These things are what I want to avoid, trying multiple guilds will only cause drama like this, creating my own is something I've done many times in this and other games and just do not like the dedication it takes, as I said, I go all out or go home, I put more effort into it than most do because I want it to a standard that I would want from a guild.
I hope this post doesn't make me sound cocky or as if I set unreachable goals, I just hope Mythic/EA views these things and thinks about ALL the little guys and their play styles/habits.
urple] Sinsationz is correct, the UI is not good. Also, while a custom UI helps, if the basic programming for the basic UI does not allow something, like certain key binds, then a custom UI also is limited by those same restrictions. Sinsationz, you have identified a challenge that many who come from other games also find to be a hindrance, it is sad that this challenge is something that you will need to learn to live with.