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Author Topic: *Article* GA, AOC, and other MMO's go F2P - Record Profits!!! [Locked]
Morgash  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-28 20:53:00
I went farming the cyraeths on my scout to get alch drops. I was there two hours, and he went from CL.05ish to CL10, and I didn't even realize it till I checked his CL level out of curiosity days later (and had done nothing else with him in the mean time).

bonus xp ftw.

 

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Orc_Merlin
Title: Captain Canada
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Drexill-tk posted:

It's really too bad F2P is the future... It pretty much gives developers a reason to make overpowered items and classes, or exclusive content that overshadows non-paid content. In the end, it's likely that you'll not only spend the 15 bucks each month, but more likely that you'll need to spend even more to stay competitive/content. That's why company's are seeing record profits...just think of if a game like WoW went F2P (greedy company as is).



This point scares me as well.
I really hope this isn't going to be the style of the next wave of mmo's.

 

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TheMadRapper posted:

Morgash posted:

Sure some people will pay, but unless you can convince the current player-base to also pay for items, F2P for DAoC is dead in the water.



I am cash rich and time poor. I'd be quite happy to spend £100 to automatically Lvl 50, ML10, CL10 etc whichever character I wanted. I think they should make the change to F2P. If you're poor then that's not my fault - life's harsh.



.. if your time poor then that's your own fault, life IS harsh!
Orc_Merlin
Title: Captain Canada
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I just want to feel that the fights are coming down moreso to skill between players rather than their pocketbooks.

 

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Semi4  3 stars
Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
UnscrupulousDuluz posted:

Record Profits!!!

Sorry but that is total BS!


I hate this silliness every time it is posted.


FYI


REVENUE does not = PROFIT


When a company spokesperson states obscure comments about “revenue” being great, it should always send up red flags.


REVENUE does not = PROFIT


Profit = Revenue – expenses to generate revenue.


Large increases in revenue do not necessarily = Large increases in profit.


Large increases in revenue could very well = very modest increases in (or decreased) profit.


When any company talks about revenue instead of actual profit/loss, it should always cause concern (certainly not jubilation).


Also


I am sorry to be rude and blunt but . . . . Any that think players would flock to the pile of feces called DAoC are dumber than a rock. Again, sorry for being blunt but someone needs to say it.


DAoC today is a neglected, hodgepodge of psychotic stupidity and any that think the gaming MMO world will love it just because the stupidity is given away free, they may not be dumber than a rock but they certainly lack a good footing in reality.


Free cow poop is still cow poop. It may be good for a farmer’s field as fertilizer but it is not a good thing to serve at a restaurant


Try opening a restaurant and serve “free” cow poop and see how many return customers you get.


DAoC needs about 30 dramatic/intense/comprehensive modifications to the game just to become viable again and to be great it needs about 45 to 60 things changed/fixed. Until then it is a moderately fun but tremendously neglected hodgepodge of psychosis that is only fun for a very tiny section of the MMO gaming community.


The only MMO gamers that would love what DAoC is today, they are already playing DAoC today.


There are viable ways for DAoC to be F2P and F2P can be profitable, but not with the game the way it is today. DAoC needs a lot of changes (about $15 million to $20 million in changes) before it could/would be fun for the general MMO gamer. After the game was fixed the game would be greatly profitable as a subscription game or as a F2P game.

 

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Morgash  1 star
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Semi4 posted:

The only MMO gamers that would love what DAoC is today, they are already playing DAoC today.



 

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Meddyck24  1 star
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Semi4 posted:

The only MMO gamers that would love what DAoC is today, they are already playing DAoC today.



Some are. And then there are thousands of former players like me who would play DAOC again if it didn't cost us $15/month. Many of us might even buy various items in a cash shop too. DAOC has its many flaws, but it's also fun. It's just not $15/month worth of fun at this point when so many former guildies don't play anymore, the dev team only makes the most minimal changes in patches, and there's no prospect of any large scale expansions/graphics overhauls/etc.

 

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Istvanarcher10
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Registered: 2011-6-14 11:24:01
f2play with real money costs for abilities and items is the suck.


time is the great equalizer. You make it f2p and you have a server of people with disposable income. It limits your customer base. I quit playing DDO because it all became a money sink for xp items and what not.


People play for entertainment. I find it to be a great value that I spend 10 or 15 bucks now a month for anywhere to 10 to as much as 100 hrs a month of entertainment. Now your changing that to 10 to 100 dollars a month.


If people with no time but plent of $$ want to play against us with time and no $$ then they can hire a guy to play their account for them and help the economy by creating the jobs they lied about trickling down, or they can just buy the crap off of EBAY like they do now.


free to play offers nothing of real value. It's 15 bucks, quit your crying, sheesh. You spend more than that on ANY 1 of the following in a week: alcahol, drugs, magazines, red bull, coffee, breakfast when you should have had a bowl of cereal, lunch when you should have packed your own, dinner when your too lazy to cook, movie on Sat night, gas in your car for a 4 gallon trip anywhere. To complain about 15 bucks a month is assinine. What about the 15 bucks in electricity your wasting with your computer up and running, 15 bucks on the cable package you don't use, 15.99 for that porno you rented.


ftp is a craptastic idea.
jkalex1134
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Registered: 2010-2-20 09:45:55
Istvanarcher10 posted:

ftp is a craptastic idea.
Morgash  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-28 20:53:00
Istvanarcher10 posted:

What about the...15.99 for that porno you rented.



$16 for porno? Damn. I just get head for $10 downtown.

 

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