And the newcomers still get treated like $h!t.


Should they not be welcomed and helped?


Trying to get newcomers to quit is not the way to save DAOC.


I know I try to help as many newcomers as I can.


So many get hazed and insulted.


The more we push away the less we have to kill on the battlefield.


I don't know about you, but I want my RPs fast.

I never understood this mentality either. We were all newcomers at one point weren't we? It's not any easier coming back from a hiatus either, honestly.

 

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About a week or 2 after I re upped I took my warrior to thidranki. As I'm xping in crap gear with no buffs a fully buffed tempes ns destroys me. I release come back and star stalking him to aj him next time e popps on someone since our
Fight was no where near fair.

A couple of thid elites come out and tell me that I better respec teh 1 v 1 and not to add noob or they would let him kill me blah blah blah. These 2 chumps did not give me a good impression of how the game was now. Luckily even back in the old school when I quit thid was always full of 12 year old ass clowns so I didn't worry about it. However if I was new to this game I woulda cancelled. No one wants to play a mmo with a retarded community.

 

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yea i recall when i returned, i asked a question after another player had ask a question, for some reason the person that reply must have mis-understood the question because they went ape shit, another person then explained to that person about my question.

i've always helped ppl whenever i can, hell i've been in Leirvik for a little over 2 weeks now just grping and helping others level up quicker. There are many, many benefits to helping others. One such example is that i'm meeting alot more ppl than i normally would in NF.

if people that are new to the game are being treated badly, take them under your own wing and make them feel welcome and let them know some people in this game do not have any respect. Show them there is others in the game willing to help out and take their own time to show them the ropes

 

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Well said

edit: Also agree about the rp/pvp population part

Its not up to me to do this alone. DAOC was not created only for those that played in 2001/2002. Yet nearly everyone that played during that time treats everyone new like $h!t. Over the years insted of being stuck up and self centered, they should have been convincing all their friends and thier friends into playing DAOC. Now 10 years later the population still isn't where it should be and 90% of the player base with their heads head high could care less.

I'm thinking that this is just a troll but w/e I'll play along.

I don't think people are any better or worse whether they started in '01 or '11 it's just that people are sick of being burned. Nowadays people beg for money, power leveling, free gear, and all sorts of other things instead of any initiative to do anything on their own. Giving stuff to people who act like little pricks has turned a lot of people off of interacting with anyone they don't know. It used to be (and to a lesser degree still is) that just by a guild tag meant you could get a lot of help or none. Anonymity has a cost even in MMOs.

I do agree that it's a huge flaws in the game that has created this mechanic where people are so starved for even/competitive RvR fights that they go ballistic on people if they are having a 1v1 or 8v8 and someone "helps" the realm. Most are in fact clueless to the fact that equal numbers doesn't mean it's an equal fight like you pointed out. Sometimes 2v1 or 3v1 is actually much more fair and fun of a fight but that's too sophisticated a concept for them to get usually.

It's also a been problem in PvE when people have had to fight over mobs.

It all comes down to exactly what you said initially, people want their stuff fast. Whether it's rp, xp, items, whatever and naturally don't care as much about other people especially when the other people are unknown and more often than not conning anyone that shows a drop of kindness.

 

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I just came back after 6 or so years. Whats up Vyxar? probly dont remember me, but its all good. Well said tho Vyx. and I do recall this game being ultra cliquey even back in Emain/OF. Even for new players, It's not what you know, its who you know. But here I am, a baby learning to walk again, after playing this game almost everyday for 5 years or so. Everyone I know is gone, except one person. I'll never ask for a hand out, but I will ask questions because SO much has changed. I'll just work my way back up to the top, and help the little ones along the way. Thats just me tho.

A note on begging which i dont care for but will help ppl. What i do is when in TNN (where most begging takes place) after giving someonee a handout i will make a /region post letting others know that i gave such n such X amount. This is so that others know if they are asked also that the player is simply begging.

I'm sure many ppl i've helped are simply wanting their own needs fullfilled but if just one of those ppl acctually turns around and helps another then it was worth it. I keep hoping it spread like a diaease haha