Im extremely curious as to the changes made in the game since my 6-7mo absence.

I logged on last night for fun in thid as stated above afer a long absence and was on my 22 Thurg. I understand buffbots and the whole lot as I was using one as well with second account... but riddle me this?

WHEN has a NS been able to NUKE 4 times coming out of stealth and kill someone? Casting, not PA, not BS, not a melee hit on a caster, but casting??!

Mind you this is not a QQ post, but rather an amusing and interested post on when this change took place. I was rather impressed that a Luri fully buffed with High dex (respectable for Thid) could cast 4 times on me coming out of stealth and drop me like a hot topic! You would think I was fighting another caster!

Just wondering if anyone had any insight on this rather amusing new play style I came across.

Thanks!

 

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I have a NS and as soon as I hit any casting ability I come out of stealth.

Not to worry. I'm sure they will make a nerf of some sort to keep ALB on top.

No no sir.. I think you misunderstood me.

I know you can stealth and cast as a NS.. you always could. My question is when in the hell did it become so powerful you could 4 shot casters? Its always been that harrass, or top someone off kinda spell ( I have a NS too ).

I just was curious as to when they boosted that spell to the point a NS can just be a pure caster with stealth.

As for nerf bat? Hell no, I like the challenge!

 

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1.103 and 1.104 saw assassins getting some love


1.103 was May 2010 when the Nightshade magic got a boost.

It's damage is based off Stealth skill (up to composite 50, no return for higher spec) and Dexterity is the acuity stat

The magic is also effected by things like spell pierce, MoM, WP etc.

There's numerous players who go out of their way to template/spec in such a way that the magic can hit for 400+ at level 50.

Given Dex being the acuity stat it also made Pierce alot more appealing due to the nature of pierce being a str/dex based spec line


Hope this answers your question

 

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oops my bad

WOW! Yea thats a huge boost to the little farts! Thats really awesome for putting in another play style for the NS. Also makes sense why he would run away if you were gonna get in melee range

Thanks for the info bud!

 

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Someone correct me but the NS spell is 2:7 second cast. They do not have quick cast. So if a NS in Thid opens a.cast on you turn face qc stun mez then as a theurg just unleash your stun DD pet series and the NS is dead

If a Thid NS got 4 casts of you were standing still and not casting anything

I appreciate the question because as a Mid Hunter I can assure you I'm keenly aware of NS in Lab and I too have a Thid NS though PA is the preferred opener I would be very hesitant to open a cast on a Theurg unless I was suiciding to log off

Two things wrong with what your saying.

1) A Luri is the easiest of all races to get to 400 in dex (not thid), and so would be the fastest caster in Thid even beating out the Inc from Alb. Lets also assume this individual is respec'd attributes in all dex to further help cast speed, then templated, then uses a buffbot with buff to stat gear. Your assumption of them getting off 4 casts before you can aquire target (regardless of "face", get a mez off with quick cast then get air pets on them is only amusing at best bud. Not bashing you, but I've been crunching numbers in this game for a long time.. and a Luri setup like that will smoke just about any Alb caster class given the right situation.

2) I was standing still, but when your observing an area, farming mobs, or something that requires standing.. of course you will be. Also keep in mind, while I have a bot for better than avg advantage, the Thurg in question I have is not templated or setup yet. So your factors of me owning him are seriously off. My slow cast times even while buffed still will allow him to get 3 casts off before mez (when did a Thurg get a stun besides a cleric??)sticks.. lets also take into account the resist factor as I mentioned me being 22 and him being 24.

Not to get off topic here.. but I was more astonished over the fact that a Luri NS can even do that let alone produce that kind of damage with that spell. Seeing how I was gone for an extended period of the game and the new website sucking.. I did not have the latest and greatest on class changes. I was kindly filled in on the matter.

In closing.. Im impressed with the changes.. I just didnt expect them to be so drastic. The fact he killed me had to do more with my level and none template, then him in general. The NS infact did get some love.

Cheers bud, and sorry if the response came off harsh. <3

 

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run out of range and pop a heal pot

cast 2 pets and he dies

 

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I agree that if you are ready and alert for a nightshade popping stealth then you can probably get off a quickcasted mez. However, you have to take into account server lag, since once you're hit with the first DD, the second DD has pretty much already been casted by the nightshade. And since quickcasting takes longer than regular casting, and again due to server lag, he might land his 4th spell even if you hit him when he's only half way through casting it. So even for an alert theurgist, the difference between life and death is probably only half a second, even if you are smart enough to use 'target last attacker', '/face' and quickcast CC. Now I'm not entirely sure exactly how fast casting will be for those classes at that level, though the slow casting time would probably help the theurg.

 

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