If you want to do your Champ exps safely, you can just go do endless Task Dungeons and never be bothered. Just kill everything in the TD. I did that on my hunter since I couldn't afford to template him at that point. It's dull as hell but I made enough cash to start doing salvaging on my Weaponcrafter character, and that started the ball rolling for getting my equipment up to date. I have never done any of the Champion quests once I figured out I didn't need to do them - as I *hate* quests with a passion generally. The 2 main reasons for getting your champ levels done that I can see are the access to the CL5 weapons when you complete that level and the bonus hits you get when you finish CL10. If you don't have a character that can salvage I would highly suggest you level up Metalworking on one character, then start salvaging and trinketing whatever you can to make money (as an example 1000 Champion Seals bought for 10p off the market, will salvage to 14.75p when you are done buying items in DF and salvaging them then trinketing from the resulting metals. Its long and time consuming but profitable. 5500 Aurulite obtained from doing the quests in Cathal Valley (or elsewhere) can be trinketed into 1.5p or so. Do the DF quests while you are in the bgs and you can get 50 seals per turn in (1 quest for each of the other opposing realms, so kill 15 enemies from each other realm and get 100 seals. Rinse, Repeat until you have a sizable number and go buy stuff in DF to salvage. You need to get Metalworking up to like 750 or 800 or something - not sure - but that is easy and relatively inexpensive & in the long run well worth it IMHO).

You can buy the ML levels from people who buy the tokens using their bps. In Midgard, the going standard rate is 10p for MLs 1-10. I personally have found it far faster to raise money by salvaging, then go buy any glass I need for Artifacts or scales for armor and weapons from the dragon zone. Actually farming the glass or scales is fairly time consuming unless you are all set up for just that, but your mileage may differ.

 

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Thanks Jhonto!
Such an answer was the one I was hoping for: a short brief what, where, how while answering most of my questions.
It's just so damn too much stuff in the game for a new and a returning player that we are nearly totally lost hehe.

So we can skip those stupid CL-quests and maybe do them when we got higher gear and RR up or maybe...never.
Didn't really think about the trinketting-and-buy-stuff either, so I will look into it.

Yay! Up for the nice trinketting!....1.....ding,1......ding,1.....ding ;D

1. I'd say that both are fairly important to get, but you can definitely RvR without them. It kind of depends on your class as well, a healing class is really going to want ML10 for a Greater Power Mythirian. Some classes ML's are more important than others, and of course it also depends on what you already have in the group.

2. You can solo the Labyrinth quests to get up to about CL6-7, or maybe just 3-4 depending on your class. But it means you'll be trying to solo PvE in an RvR zone, you'll get run over 100 times. Regardless if you just want a few CL's fairly quickly you can run this line quests, on a ranger it took me maybe 3-4 hours to get to CL5 a long time ago, but stealth and the ability to kill things easily kind of helped a lot. Most people don't bother doing this though, you get CL xp through RvR. I think by about RR 3-4 you should be CL5, especially if you spend your BPs on experience scrolls, at a rate of 2000 bps per champ level.

3. The old dragon gear that used to cost 30-120 plat, pretty much all costs 5 plat a piece now, or less. There is slightly better gear in the game now but you can still be very solid with just dragon gear and artifacts. Its hard to say, maybe you can make a template for like 10 plat and still cap your resists/stats/skills/hits without any toys, I'm not sure. I've made a bunch of 'cheap' templates where the max cost of any item is 5-10 plat, and they often end up costing 25-40 plat. If you have a bot and a farming character it shouldn't take you long to get 25 plat. ML1-10 can also be bought from someone with a huge stash of BPs, usually for 10-12 plat, sometimes 15.

 

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as for metalcrafting yeah its a good idea, especially now because there is a 40% crafting speed bonus and like a 20% higher chance to level up if you craft in the capital cities. This will make it substantially easier to level up metalcrafting.

When you level it up, you need to be smart about it. Every time you level up 1 skill in weaponcrafting (that uses metal materials) you also get a skill in metalcrafting. Same goes for armorcrafting and fletching too. For fletching though you have to create arrows i think, but they aren't available until 100-200, before that I think mauler staffs or something (for some reason) give you a skill in metalcrafting.

So there's lots of different ways to do it and i'm sure someone out there has figured out the most efficient way but i'm really not sure. But basically, level up metalcrafting to 300-400 or so, then level up AC, WC, and fletching all to 200. You'll have 900-1000 metalcrafting. In case you are unfamiliar with how it works, you take any metal armor or weapon piece in your inventory, press the salvage button, wait a little while, and you'll get a certain amount of metal bars in your inventory. You should get 1 metal bar for every second that it takes to salvage the item, but if you are not skilled enough then there's a good chance you will get quite a bit less. Once you get the metal bars you use the metal crafting recipes to craft 'gem studded jewelry boxes'. The jewelry boxes use 20 metal bars and when you sell one jewelry box back to a merchant you get almost twice as much as the cost of metal bars. But when you are leveling up don't create the gem studded jewelry boxes, make hinges that take only 1 metal bar instead, otherwise its a huge waste of materials. Stuff from DF salvages for Diamond Metal Bars, you can trinket diamond gem studded jewelry boxes when you are somewhere in the 700 range. However when you do trinket, try to get to high enough level so that you are creating grey con items, then you will craft twice as fast. A lot of other stuff in the game (like ToA) salvages for Arcanium Metal Bars, and you need 900-1000 skill for this.

I did some rough calculations, and I'm not sure if I remember correctly but I think you can make 2-3 plat an hour just from buying DF stuff and then salvaging/trinketing. Of course right now you will be able to do that a little faster (not sure if salvaging is any faster with the bonus). If you have two accounts then of course you can nearly double this amount if you level up two metalcrafters at once. With the crafting speed bonus I don't think it will take you more than 3 hours to get a 700+ metalcrafter.

 

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Nice, thank you DoorknobMLF this will help me alot! esp. when I need to filter my old rememberings about crafting and salvaging

There are several kinds of alternative currencies.

It kind of complicated but the short version is:

you get Scales for killing mobs in Dragon Zone.
you can use scales to by dragon drops and dragon quest armor.

you get Glass for killing in TOA.

I'm not 100% sure what all you can buy with glass but I think you can buy your MLs with Glass or Bounty Points. Maybe you can buy artifacts as well.

you can get seals in DF, you can use the seals to buy items that you salvage ( this seams to be a good way to earn some plats)
you also get seals when you complete the DF RVR quest (1 for killing 15 albs, and 1 for killing 15 mids ) this is a great quest that gives you rps, bps, and glass.

The quest is repeatable as long as your realm has DF port open.

I'm pretty sure there is only two main differences between glass and BPs... both are for the same reason though.

With BP's you can buy scrolls that give you experience points (to level or for champ level), with glass you cannot.

For this reason, Bounty Points are not tradeable, but just about everything you can buy with bounty points (except for the XP scrolls) are tradeable. Whereas glass itself is tradeable (and the stuff you buy with it).

 

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Since this is the last weekend for testing the patch, I am betting it will be released later this week or next...no need to wait a few

 

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