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Kahzee  Posts: 246
Registered: 2009-8-26 11:17:54
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Vladasa posted:
Isn't it just three server clusters, with the same races, classes, etc just fighting?
If so, not even close to RvR =o) just PvP with a shiny twist.
stop comparing everything to DAOC davo or you are going to ruin any new mmo for yourself. You need to have a broad and open mind
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Vladasa  Posts: 305
Registered: 2009-4-1 09:21:12
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Kahzee posted:
stop comparing everything to DAOC davo or you are going to ruin any new mmo for yourself. You need to have a broad and open mind
I'm playing SWTOR when it comes out, because it's nothing like DAoC; and I'm a huge fan of the wars.
I just have the feeling, if I want PvP/RvR, I'll be playing DAoC and if I want something else (there are times I just want to PvE and follow a story-line) I'll just play one of the WoW clones out there =o)
Additionally I've played almost every MMO as it comes out, some I've liked, some I haven't... I'm just stating facts, I'm not ruining my own game play lol; I always come into a new game thinking "this is a different game, try it out." So you know... The mind is open.
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DoorknobMLF posted:
no tanks, no healers, no DSP = FAIL.
Sorry but wtf people.
Ok so the game might not be ruined just because of this but how can you call that a number one reason why the game is gonna be good. Dunno if you realized but tanks, healers, and DPS = rock, paper, scissors, and this is what makes DAOC good.
Best part about the whole game right there. All classes have access to heals for themselves, and I'm pretty sure they'll be able to heal eachother.
So having your group all cross healing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated healers. The fact that you fail to realize this pretty much shows us all that your IQ is low.
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Geeo Posts: 82
Registered: 2009-7-15 13:16:16
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Vladasa posted:
Isn't it just three server clusters, with the same races, classes, etc just fighting?
If so, not even close to RvR =o) just PvP with a shiny twist.
Wats Daocs biggest problem...."Balance" this way theres no QQing about that realm gets that ect
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Kahzee Posts: 246
Registered: 2009-8-26 11:17:54
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Notsoserious posted:
DoorknobMLF posted:
no tanks, no healers, no DSP = FAIL.
Sorry but wtf people.
Ok so the game might not be ruined just because of this but how can you call that a number one reason why the game is gonna be good. Dunno if you realized but tanks, healers, and DPS = rock, paper, scissors, and this is what makes DAOC good.
Best part about the whole game right there. All classes have access to heals for themselves, and I'm pretty sure they'll be able to heal eachother.
So having your group all cross healing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated healers. The fact that you fail to realize this pretty much shows us all that your IQ is low.
This pretty much
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Date Posted:
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Notsoserious posted:
DoorknobMLF posted:
no tanks, no healers, no DSP = FAIL.
Sorry but wtf people.
Ok so the game might not be ruined just because of this but how can you call that a number one reason why the game is gonna be good. Dunno if you realized but tanks, healers, and DPS = rock, paper, scissors, and this is what makes DAOC good.
Best part about the whole game right there. All classes have access to heals for themselves, and I'm pretty sure they'll be able to heal eachother.
So having your group all cross healing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated healers. The fact that you fail to realize this pretty much shows us all that your IQ is low.
the fact that you think my opinion implies that my IQ is low actually suggests that you're a fool.
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kancle Posts: 86
Registered: 2011-8-2 03:54:57
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Jstudly7 posted:
IMO healers ruin PVP, its always about who was getting healed. no it will actually be about the fighter and his skillz. defensive abilitys will actually be important now.
Every class has a support spec so you dont have to have a group waiting around for 1 class to make or break the group. and they way the classes can support are much better imo than traditional, 1 tanks, and 1 guy sitting back healing. here is a group fighting a boss ( warroir with shield holding aggr, elemetalist using water spec to nuke/heal. a necro debuffing teh target and feeding health to everyone. and engeener with aa heal turrent up, a guarding attacking with damage block chants up....alot of combined support power.
There is nothing skillful about getting hit by a melee train of 3+characters at the same time. With a healer you CAN survive this many many times. Without a healer, the trains target dies rather instantly. Healers make the game fun imo.
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PowPowParn Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
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in UO, you had to heal yourself!
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Soazak Posts: 152
Registered: 2002-2-8 06:46:03
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There are no dedicated healers. As Notso said, it's all about cross healing and everyone working as a team. UO worked in the same way and their pvp system was > daoc (not that I'm saying GW2 will be anything like UO...)
It's also about damage avoidance and mitigation. It puts more skill back into the dps/tank classes as they have to pay attention to avoid and minimise their own damage, rather than putting all the stress on 1-2 healing classes in a group.
To me, it does sound like a good system, whether it actually works is another thing obviously, but props to them for trying to be different rather than just Copy+Pasting WoW.
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Jstudly7 Posts: 50
Registered: 2003-12-29 22:15:05
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There is nothing skillful about getting hit by a melee train of 3+characters at the same time. With a healer you CAN survive this many many times. Without a healer, the trains target dies rather instantly. Healers make the game fun imo.
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Here is my view on this, if your a fragile class (caster) or specc'd all offense you shouldnt get teh luxury of a healer being able to keep you alive from a train on you. Now if your specced for defense (defense actually be important now instead relying on heals liek every in game) and keep in mind your group can be giving you support, like small heals, damage chant block and such. So now you might actually survive the attack and even if you do die after the train being on your for a considerable amount of time because your defensive, your group has pretty much finished off the otehr group while the train was wasting their time on you.
also you dont die your in teh down state and still help your group and anyone come come get you back up.
with healers in a group it requires them to be the target to win, and in most group fights one side is completely dead with the otehr having none or few die. with this system there wont really be a 1st main target. there will be deaths on boths sides so if your standing after the fight it will be more of an accomplishment of victory.
and ill say it again, now defensive skills will actually be worth having in this game in groups
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