nice try troll but im right

 

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No, you aren't and literally 2 minutes of testing will prove you wrong. Go to a level 50 npc, pull out your level 1 nuke, and go cast it and see how many times it's resisted. Next use the highest level nuke and see how often it's resisted. Spell level is more important than character level if the character is within 5 levels of the NPC.

If you want to level and you are a bolt class, use bolts. They don't have as much dps but you can take out purple mobs with them with a little kiting, and you can often take out orange mobs with only a single further nuke. Most blues and yellows die flat out.

And to whoever said get MoF, you can't spec it until 50.

In any case, having a resist system based on both spell *and* character level was retarded. This game needs a ton of polish which is pretty unforgivable for being out for 10 years.

Levelling casters has always had this problem at certain levels. If you had new spells every level it wouldn't be as bad but often your spell levels don't keep up with your level and therefore the level of the mobs you're killing. Thing is these days you level so fast it's hardly a problem anymore. Kill yellows for a bit until you can train higher level damage spells.

Yea right, I was pretty sure that spell-level ARE important vs mobs which are higher than the spell level. But a little correction here:

MoF is available at lvl 40 (specced it) and i really dont understand why.

Really not sure if some ppl here are just trolling because it's funny or they really believe what they think (what is obviously wrong to be honest...)

For what it's worst, tics have the highest resist rates in the game. This has been noted many times since the class was released, even more so mentioned in numerous TL reports and feedbacks. The only possible reason for this is their spells are based similar to DoTs which have higher resist rates that normal spells. Hell I have SS's my of my tic nuking orange mobs in AC with 5-8 resists back to back and then one big 1800+ nuke. Thats 48+ 18 or so in Rejuv. So expect horrible resists with this class.

so you haven't tested this yourself and have no clue what you're talking about

and im still right

so we're at square one

 

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Oh, dear. I hate to break it to you, but there is a lot of incorrect statements in this post. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but I can say at this point they are not a very credible source.

Firstly, I have done the testing, and a lower level spell (say level 7 vs. level 48) will have the exact same resist rates against a mob. While Mastery of Focus will increase the lower level spell damage slightly, again, there is no difference in resist rates. The only importance of spell level in regards to resist rates is in RvR.

Secondly, using bolts as a means to kill higher level mobs isn't really all that different from using normal spells. Sure, normal spells get resisted, but you're forgetting the fact while bolts may not get resisted, they have an equal chance of missing, not to mention on some mobs they can be partially blocked. With a little kiting (or someone with guard in your group), you can kill pretty much any mob. The whole point is moot, however, as you can kill several yellows/oranges in the time it would take to kill one red/purple. It's much more time and power cost effective to stick to mobs closer to your level unless you have a Focal Mythirian.

Third, you can spec MoF at level 40, but you're right in your implication that whoever suggested to spec that while leveling has never actually leveled on a caster before.

Lastly, I don't see a problem with the resist rates when fighting mobs. You seem to be under the assumption that you should be able to chain kill oranges and take on reds with relative ease, when this is simply not the case. I don't think the players were deceived about this matter, either. I did the tutorial quest for kicks a while back, and when they presented the test dummies, they described them exactly how they should have; grey/green/blue are easy, yellow is normal, orange is a challenge, red will require assistance, and purple will require a group or raid.

 

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Keep in mind much of the above post is speaking in terms of sub-level 50. With Champion levels, mythirians, and a more commonplace environment for maximizing templates, the challenge of pve becomes reduced significantly. As an example, if I went out on my buffless Runemaster and tried to kill a purple without my focal mythirian, it would take me around :30 seconds to 1:30 to kill it. If I pop on my focal mythirian, the mob will drop in 10 to 20 seconds.

 

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I got my info from an old Camelot Herald grab bag, but I just got off of Pendragon. Level 50 wizard with 7+23 Ice, 100 casts with a wizard's Ice Cloud (Minor), a level 1 ice nuke, 100 casts with Ice Blast (Major), a level 50 ice nuke, and 100 casts with Ice Cloud (Minor) a level 24 cold nuke . All are baseline spells against a level 50 Crush test NPC with no mastery of focus or focal mythrians.

Results:
L1 Spell - 61 Hits / 39 Resists
L24 Spell - 74 Hits / 26 Resists
L50 Spell - 79 Hits / 21 Resists

Then I went and maxed out MoF, turning that level 1 spell into a L40 spell.

L1 Spell with MoF - 83 Hits / 17 resists.

Within 4% of the level 50 spell, and I think that's an acceptable margin of error for only 100 casts. So yes, spell level definitely makes a difference.

I then turned him into a level 55 NPC and tossed 60 bolts his way.

L1 Spell - 47 Hits / 53 Resists
L50 Spell - 57 Hits / 43 Resists
Bolts - 50 Hits / 10 Miss, a miss rate of 20%.

I then turned him into a level 65 NPC. Still have the Mastery of Focus, remember.

Bolts - 51 Hits / 9 Miss - About the same.
L50 Spell - 54 Hits / 46 Resists
L1 Spell - 50 Hits / 50 Resists

So yeah, a big level difference does change things. Smaller level differences not so much, and level doesn't seem to matter at all for how often your bolts hit or miss.

try it in game and not on a bot broseph

 

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