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1/1/00 12:00am
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Okay another "I just came back and wonder..." topic:
Can't remember the resist rates against higher than orange mobs were so damn high past in the days (4-6y ago).
It is REALLY a pain to level with some classes because of this pathetic random resist rates.
Esp. as an EU player with more lag, sometimes less people online to group with OR the solo-roxxor-behaviour in the BGs(Most ppl just wont do groups in BGs because they "can" kill things solo and wont make groups until there is a big group and they wont get enough kills) it is REALLY frustrating to level in the BGs.
The mobs there are a every color to match the 5 lvl yea, but for some classes this is a huge problem.
In some fights, the orange mob will resist 75%+ of the casts and in some fights only 25%.
Could someone explain to me why they changed this rates for casts that dramaticly? Or give me tips how i can change this rates for me, esp. on heretic, cleric and classes without many tools when the mob resisted nearly everything.
Tried several things like: better staff with more bonus (thought it would be for melee only though...), buffs, always skill = level and yeah, can't kill yellow or lower mobs in the first levels of a BG, because there are mostly orange+.
And oh yeah, i skilled mastery of focus as lvl 40+ and don't even know if it changed something to be honest.
PS: sorry for the english if there are many mistakes.
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PowPowParn Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
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bad luck
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Date Posted:
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PowPowParn posted:
bad luck
Oh yeah right! The bad luck!
Well, as I started playing some days ago with a friend (we didnt know about BG quests there...) we made task dungeons with 2 casters..it was a PAIN because every 10 level the mobs were orange to us and we died often because of the resists.
We rerolled on midgard then, same with the casters there obviously (was not the reason for rerolling ofc).
Now we are on albion and i was leveling a smite cleric....so, we have "bad luck" a little bit too often i guess.
The tics of a tic are quite often 50%+ resisted on orange/red mobs aswell but hey, all bad luck right?
I guess the miss-chances of melees are exactly the same then? Oh they arent? wow....
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PowPowParn Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
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that or as you said, your fighting higher con mobs than what your spell level is.
ive missed 12 times in a row in melee. sometimes its bad luck. relax, get some RR and mastery of focus, its not so bad.
if your this mad in pve wait till people resists your mez 3 times in a row in pvp
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Much of it depends on the relative level of the mob to the spell being cast (the level of the spell, not your level). Casters tend to only learn new spell levels every 6 or 7 or more player levels. So when you are relying on a spell 7 levels below you as your main nuke, resists will be more common.
Also, I've noticed over many years of playing that certain mobs are "resisters". They spawn with higher resists than average. It's not just a case that you get a string of bad random numbers causing misses/resists (though this can happen) it's that these mobs have built in higher resists. You can test this by running from them, coming back later and that same mob will still cause a long string of resists/misses.
Plus there are "low OJs" and "high OJs". If the mobs are mostly red with a few OJs sprinkled in you will get more resists than if the OJ is in a pack of mostly yellows. And certain types of mob resist more than others. For example, I've found that anything using the Drudger model (from Corus Mines in Hib) often will resist a lot.
Generally speaking, Catacombs mobs will resist you the most, they deliberately made those tougher than average. TOA mobs vary, some resist a lot some don't. Classic, SI and Epic zone mobs are generally pretty standard. Battleground and RvR dungeon mobs vary but most are ok if you stick to OJ or lower.
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b0xy Posts: 314
Registered: 2009-3-21 20:06:56
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Well, most of the time you're casting a spell that's a couple levels lower than your caster level. If you're level 24 and casting a level 20 nuke on an OJ mob, you're probably going to get resisted a lot.
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title
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Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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all spells are treated as if they are the same level as you unless you use a focal myth
so a level7 spell will resist just as much as a level50 spell will
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b0xy Posts: 314
Registered: 2009-3-21 20:06:56
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It doesn't work that way in PvP does it? Cause then wtf is MoF for?
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title
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Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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mof is for pvp
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Date Posted:
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PasswordLLOTH posted:
all spells are treated as if they are the same level as you unless you use a focal myth
so a level7 spell will resist just as much as a level50 spell will
Only your signature is correct on that post
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