Um, I was under the impression yellow buffs were to cap now with 25% buff bonus? So, Mythic changed two spell lines in Aug for Shamans...
Old: 36 s/c gave 152 to con with 25% BB
New 35 s/c Gives 149 to con with 25% bb

So I lose an additional 3 off Strength/Con buff? In order to cap I have to spec and use the level 44 buff which also takes 33 concentration-making this alittle more difficult to spec a group and hard endo.

Old 37 Dex/Quick Gave 154 to Dex with 25%bb
New 38 D/q gives 155 to Dex with 25% (also gives 2 more points than previous 37 spell--+60 over +58)

So, they capped yellow D/Q but nerfed yellow S/C??? Are other realms seeing this???

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Logged in my cleric to test same thing, and d/q yellow buff caps Dex.
But, the yellow s/c buff is 150. My cleric and my shaman have 25%bb.

Looking at Char builder I came up with the reason for them to nerf STR/CON is to bring them in line with Hib STR/CON they did the same for the clerics. WHat I dont get is that they didnt tough DEX/QUI which mid gets the shortest end of the stick at

+70mid ( 47 spec)/ +73Hib ( 49 spec)/ +75alb ( 50 spec)

Thats not including Bonuses or any thing thats JUST the delv on the spells.

Why bring one into line but not the other?

Originally Mid got more STR because we were the STRENGTH realm.

Hib ( IMHO SHOULD HAVE but didnt ) gotten higher dex/qui for their weaker melee to swing faster. And to support their stronger casters.

Alb should have had middle field but instead had the best of both worlds.

Now it stands that Alb has the BEST buffs all around. Granted thats due to one buff being the DEX/QUI but never the less its a substantial lead when you look at the numbers.


Edit Also just noticed taht Albs lv 35 str con is 1point delv higher then both Hib and Mid.


anyonelse think there might be a little imbalance going on here?

 

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My cleric s/c is 150 now with 25% bb and yellow buff. Mid is 149 with 25%bb. However, Both my mid and my alb both cap their Dex/quick with only yellow buff and 25%bb. Odd they do one and nerf the other.

agree if they are going to try to balance every thing and give us WoWish copy of each class on each realm just get it over with so everyone quits at the same time instead of dragging it out. IMHO that's the ONE THING they could do to kill the game is make every realm have an exact copy of the other realms classes with a different name.

 

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Nerf to tanks, boost to casters.


Hmmmm.

 

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It's 3 str/con less lol, and only 1 compared to a cleric. it's a net boost since you can get the red str/con at 44 (which does cap) now instead of at 46 aug on a Shaman.

The yellow d/q was like 145 or 147 prior to this change in Midgard, when it capped in Alb and Hib (10 or 8 point difference is now 0). Alb/Hib couldn't and can't cap their yellow s/c still either. Differences in realms are great, but when it comes to buffs they should be pretty similar, and I think a 1 point difference is pretty damn similar.

 

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maybe you missed the point that it now costs more to spec??? Using the level 44 spell costs 33 Concentration points as opposed to 25 I used previous. So I doubt I can spec the group and give everyone hard endo as well now with this crap patch, as I used to. Furthermore you've missed the point that yellow d/q caps and yellow s/c does not.

I didn't miss any point. Previously, going 46 Aug was the preferred 8v8 spec, now you can get away going just 44 aug (45 if you can't deal with giving up the red Cold resist). Yellow str/con NEVER capped, in any realm. Yellow dex/qui DID cap but only in Alb and Hib. The change was that Mid can now cap their yellow dex/qui too. Then they normalized when the red/str con was given so that each realm could cap it at the same time (44 buff spec). That threw off when the yellow version was given for Mid since it was previously at like 38 or 39. Now it's at 35 which means it has a lower delve (oh no 3 points less... ) than before.


Overall, this is a great boost to Mid. You have an endo chant and yellow *base* buffs cap now (all of them)... you really shouldn't be hurting from conc post-ML4 perfector and with a solid template (101 acuity).

 

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Yellow d/q with 25% buff bonus never capped before, I wanna say I was -1 off from cap, I can't recall now. The new spell, I'm capped, again, I suppose this is in relation to them making the delve 2 points higher now. As for s/c buff, using yellow before I was -3 off from cap using 25%BB. Now I'm -6. I was 152 fully buffed, now 149. So previously it was not a major issue to use yellow specs in the group cause -1 and -3 wasn't a huge deal. But I fear -6 is more an issue than the -3 was. Furthermore, if you're gonna cap yellow specs, then it should be across the board, not just 1 spell. I feel Mythic has forced me to use the Level 44 spell just to ensure I and others have the best possible s/c buff out. Yes, previously it was Level 46, but as I just said, losing only 3 off cap wasn't a huge deal as compared to losing 6 IMO.

Capping dex/qui is ridiculously more important than str/con.

A few more hp only matters if you are on the threshold of dying.
For melee, you can pretty much trade the qui that you gained and needed for swing speed for the str that you lost.

On the other hand because of casting mechanics being what they are hitting the target threshold for the next integer rounding point makes the inter-realm balance between those dex stats much more meaningful.

So overall, if you were specing for red str/con you gained , if you were specing for red dex/qui you gained, and if you were specing for yellow of both you traded.

 

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