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Gloriena
Posts: 48
Registered: 2004-2-13 06:26:27
Actually, last night I reactivated my buffbot account because I wanted one for CV, after half a years break or so,
only using NPC buffs.

I ran both bb account and main account with the built in Atlantis Skin, and I've been duallogging
for the last 5 years or so, on my quad-core PC.. no problem at all.

After 5 minutes, the first game.dll error occured. Logged bb in again, and 10min later my main
account went LD .. okay could be normal, so I logged it in again.

When my bb hit lvl 11, I ran it to TNN to train.. clicked on trainer.. and BOOM.. game shut down without notice,
not even a game.dll error... then I gave up, and deactivated my subscription.


Also tried to run the game as Windows XP and administrator (using Windows 7, but have done that for several years
without problems like this), but something happened in this patch for sure.

Never had problems before this.

Oh well, guess I gotta live with the NPC buffs haha..
giz0r
Posts: 18
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runkor posted:

giz0r posted:

My friend just reactivated along with me, and while I have no problems, my friends DAoC keeps crashing his system. Today after about 50 minutes of play, his computer froze. This has happend several times for him.

He has no problem playing Skyrim or BF3 for hours on end, without crashes. Are any of you familiar with something that could cause DAoC to crash the system?

Here is the fix:

download 4G patch file from here..

http://www.mediafire.com/?mq0rmcib2wi4afw

1) go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\Dark Age of Camelot
2) Make copy of game.dll and camelot.exe file and put it somewhere you would remember
3) Extract the 4G patch zip file
4) Open 4gb_patch.exe
5) It will ask you to selected a file.
6) Navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\Dark Age of Camelot and select game.dll
7) After the patch is done.. do the same thing for camelot.exe file.


It should fix the memory leak problem. If you encounter any problems
after the patch.. just put the files you copied earlier "game.dll and
camelot.exe" back in the Dark Age of Camelot folder.
You will need to do this every time there is an update to DAoC



Thanks for the suggestion, sadly this didn't do the trick. He crashed around 1 hour of playing, with the patch applied.

Later that night, we tried playing in Window mode, and played for 2 hours without crashing. Can't say for sure this eliminated the problem, but so far it looks like it.
Devourment_BD
Posts: 15
Registered: 2009-7-13 11:01:04
Vulna posted:

ArkadyTepes posted:

giz0r posted:

No, what's stupid is ignoring relevant information.



but, it isnt relevant, daoc is an ancient game, built to run on old tech, with mangled code from years of changes...



It is relevant. Someone above said to get some canned air and blow out the dust in the computer. This is something you typically do when the problem is heat. If I know his computer can play BF3 and Skyrim for hours at a time without crashing, then I know DAoC isn't crashing because of heat.

I can tell you're one of those really smart guys that lacks the common sense everyone else seems to have.



^^ This. Precisely. He does that with any thread related to DAOC and technical issues. Just ignore what the dumb ass has to say.

 

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giz0r
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Turns out Windowed mode didn't fix it either :-( Today he crashed after 1 hour and 10 mintues.

Only thing we haven't tried yet is formatting and installing on another harddrive, will keep you posted when we try.
Semi4  3 stars
Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
Vulna posted:

ArkadyTepes posted:

giz0r posted:

No, what's stupid is ignoring relevant information.



but, it isnt relevant, daoc is an ancient game, built to run on old tech, with mangled code from years of changes...



It is relevant. Someone above said to get some canned air and blow out the dust in the computer. This is something you typically do when the problem is heat. If I know his computer can play BF3 and Skyrim for hours at a time without crashing, then I know DAoC isn't crashing because of heat.


I can tell you're one of those really smart guys that lacks the common sense everyone else seems to have.

I have read threads where players could play many other games out there but ended up still having heat challenges with DAoC (which is why I suggested that they blow out their computer). DAoC tends to generate more heat than many other games. Also, most people do not evaluate and compare the amount of heat generated by each game (let alone with each CPU/GPU/game combo possible) so listing games that will run on a computer is not something that is quantifiable by most and because the information is not quantifiable it is not really as useful as some would think, it only seems useful but can actually end up obfuscating what is really happening. As ArkadyTepes pointed out, a game that is optimized for their platform could very well never be able to generate the work load necessary to cause heat challenges where as DAoC, an old game that is not so well optimized for their platform, could (and often does) end up generating heat that was not expected. DAoC has always been a game that pushed computer hardware harder than most other games.


Other things to consider:

Everything that can generate heat, and everything that can overheat and cause a crash, does not have a temp sensor. Very few things actually have temp sensors. A CPU can have good temps but a RAM board (or ram chip on a video card) could have reduced airflow and have intermittent challenges caused by excessive heat building up.


While the OP giving us temps can seem conclusive, in some cases such temps can actually obfuscate things. The temps for the CPU/GPU can rise and fall 10 degrees in only 5 to 10 seconds. If the OP did not have a recording program that was logging temps, a log they could go back to and review the temps at the exact moment of crash, they really do not know what the temps were at the time of the crash. They could monitor and see normal temps during one part of the game and still have temp challenges that crash the game 1 min later.


I have never said that the challenge is actually heat, just that one thing that could cause intermittent failure while playing DAoC is heat and that checking for heat is one of the easier things to do (using canned air is easy). Even though the temps seem to be normal, the symptoms do point to heat being a possibility and it is easy to blow out the computer.


They could have an intermittent challenge caused by a virus, rootkit, mailware, bloatware, intermittent failing ram (run Memtest), corrupted game file, intermittent failure of the video card ram(Run a video card test ram test), etc. . . .


Edit: Testing ram chips for a heat challenge is also easy. Just open the computer case and direct a small to medium size house fan at the open case. The increased airflow should add enough cooling that if a hot ram chip is causing the intermittent challenge you should see a change in symptoms.

 

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