Vulna posted:
ArkadyTepes posted:
giz0r posted:
No, what's stupid is ignoring relevant information.
but, it isnt relevant, daoc is an ancient game, built to run on old tech, with mangled code from years of changes...
It is relevant. Someone above said to get some canned air and blow out the dust in the computer. This is something you typically do when the problem is heat. If I know his computer can play BF3 and Skyrim for hours at a time without crashing, then I know DAoC isn't crashing because of heat.
I can tell you're one of those really smart guys that lacks the common sense everyone else seems to have.
I have read threads where players could play many other games out there but ended up still having heat challenges with DAoC (which is why I suggested that they blow out their computer). DAoC tends to generate more heat than many other games. Also, most people do not evaluate and compare the amount of heat generated by each game (let alone with each CPU/GPU/game combo possible) so listing games that will run on a computer is not something that is quantifiable by most and because the information is not quantifiable it is not really as useful as some would think, it only seems useful but can actually end up obfuscating what is really happening. As ArkadyTepes pointed out, a game that is optimized for their platform could very well never be able to generate the work load necessary to cause heat challenges where as DAoC, an old game that is not so well optimized for their platform, could (and often does) end up generating heat that was not expected. DAoC has always been a game that pushed computer hardware harder than most other games.
Other things to consider:
Everything that can generate heat, and everything that can overheat and cause a crash, does not have a temp sensor. Very few things actually have temp sensors. A CPU can have good temps but a RAM board (or ram chip on a video card) could have reduced airflow and have intermittent challenges caused by excessive heat building up.
While the OP giving us temps can seem conclusive, in some cases such temps can actually obfuscate things. The temps for the CPU/GPU can rise and fall 10 degrees in only 5 to 10 seconds. If the OP did not have a recording program that was logging temps, a log they could go back to and review the temps at the exact moment of crash, they really do not know what the temps were at the time of the crash. They could monitor and see normal temps during one part of the game and still have temp challenges that crash the game 1 min later.
I have never said that the challenge is actually heat, just that one thing that could cause intermittent failure while playing DAoC is heat and that checking for heat is one of the easier things to do (using canned air is easy). Even though the temps seem to be normal, the symptoms do point to heat being a possibility and it is easy to blow out the computer.
They could have an intermittent challenge caused by a virus, rootkit, mailware, bloatware, intermittent failing ram (run Memtest), corrupted game file, intermittent failure of the video card ram(
Run a video card test ram test), etc. . . .
Edit: Testing ram chips for a heat challenge is also easy. Just open the computer case and direct a small to medium size house fan at the open case. The increased airflow should add enough cooling that if a hot ram chip is causing the intermittent challenge you should see a change in symptoms.
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