One caster has pet reclaim, no casters have endo regen, two casters have pom.

All casters have bladeturn in one of their baselines, or at spec level 1 in the case of theurgs (whom have similarities to RM's supp line in regards to pbt, and were already explicitly updated to fix this) Make invalid comparisons much?

 

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go play WoW for mirror classes.

 

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Irrelevant argument. It's got nothing to do with mirror classes and everything to do with being consistant with applying fixes between the realms. Otherwise it's just yet another example of Alb love.

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A) I'm not talking about class mirroring, and neither were you in the point I responded to. Don't take my argument, apply it to one of your points that I wasn't addressing and call it invalid. You were talking about being at a leveling disadvantage, and having that situation be unique to RMs. It isn't. I could pick apart the flawed logic in the rest of your argument point by point, but others have done that already, and I think it's pretty clear to anyone reading this thread that what you're describing is not an issue (I would even call it an advantage, because RMs have access to a powerful defensive spell at level 2, while others have to wait until 19).

So anyway, as flawed as your argument is here, I'm not even going to bother correcting you. Having access to BT at level 2 spec is a leveling advantage. Being 1 level behind on your spec spells is NBD and not a disadvantage in any way when compared to other casters who also take that disadvantage willingly for other reasons (like pet sac or PoM). There are plenty of classes that split their specs pre-40 for leveling purposes, RMs aren't unique in that regard. So again, stop distracting people from actual issues with the game.

 

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All true. But all of this also applies to the Theurgist. So the question remains, why move it to level 1 for Theurgist and not for Runie? Both are their realm's PBT class and share some other similarities, such as run speed etc.

not necro

besides, QQ level supp to 2

 

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Because the classes aren't meant to be identical? Why do armsmen get a ranged line that actually has benefits for increasing spec while the other heavy tanks don't?

 

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The "not meant to be identical" thing is a weak argument. Just because Class A gets something doesn't automatically preclude Class B from also getting it if it makes sense to do so, especially when it is a core mechanic. Many class changes in patch 1.110 were applied across similar classes in all three realms.

It is most certainly not a weak argument. I'd like to hear your explanation for that one. Classes are not meant to be identical. That's the whole point of the system; different classes get the same abilities in different combinations.

Look, the final point is that they get the spell. It's not like they're missing a core mechanic (for the sake of argument we'll assume that bubble is a core mechanic, and not a luxury). They get it, and they get it before almost any other class in the game. What's the issue here?

 

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