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Daminada
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Registered: 2002-4-3 08:05:50
_skreWball_ posted:

Keep in mind Plasmas are going out and LED's are taking front row so eventually you will not see plasmas anymore thus the reason they dropped in price so much.


You CAN get LED's for cheap you just gotta know how to shop.

On a side note they really need to conquer the motion blur/studder on these LED's once and for all.


We did buy this one it was around 2400$ then its on sale now for 1600$ and if you get it through the internet discount you can get it for 1300$ with tax. I thought it was worth it also like to add I seen NO difference between the 120 hz and 240 hz and this LED is a 3d TV.

It uses the same 3d glasses as the theaters.



If they haven't conquered the motion blur yet then I don't see plasma going away anytime soon. With a plasma rocking about 600 hz.. well that just rocks.

 

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LawdawgDynasty
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Registered: 2002-12-20 16:14:58
Daminada posted:

_skreWball_ posted:

Keep in mind Plasmas are going out and LED's are taking front row so eventually you will not see plasmas anymore thus the reason they dropped in price so much.


If they haven't conquered the motion blur yet then I don't see plasma going away anytime soon. With a plasma rocking about 600 hz.. well that just rocks.



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_skreWball_  1 star
Posts: 178
Registered: 2005-10-14 04:07:25
Daminada posted:

If they haven't conquered the motion blur yet then I don't see plasma going away anytime soon. With a plasma rocking about 600 hz.. well that just rocks.



May wanna do research on them as I did thoroughly, plasmas cost more to build as they use Argon, Neon and Xenon.They give a much worse picture in a bright room and glare, although they have a really good picture at night they are still not as bright as LED's and the colors begin to fade over time and the plamsa TV cannot be fixed once it goes.

LED only requires a replacement of a LED back lite unit and the screen never loses it's colors ever.

The ONLY upside to plasma's is motion blur isn't a problem cause they work a lot like an old crt.The new LED's are getting better and better at getting rid of motion blur,have WAAAY better 3d,brighter colors and no glare that plasmas have.

This is why for every one plasma TV that is sold they sell 9 LCD/LED's.You can check those facts anywhere on the net.

BTW the hz has very little effect on motion blur,your eye cannot see 600 hz let alone 240hz but yea good try.

 

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Mrtag25  1 star
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Registered: 2004-6-7 10:03:04
_skreWball_ posted:

Daminada posted:

If they haven't conquered the motion blur yet then I don't see plasma going away anytime soon. With a plasma rocking about 600 hz.. well that just rocks.



May wanna do research on them as I did thoroughly, plasmas cost more to build as they use Argon, Neon and Xenon.They give a much worse picture in a bright room and glare, although they have a really good picture at night they are still not as bright as LED's and the colors begin to fade over time and the plamsa TV cannot be fixed once it goes.

LED only requires a replacement of a LED back lite unit and the screen never loses it's colors ever.

The ONLY upside to plasma's is motion blur isn't a problem cause they work a lot like an old crt.The new LED's are getting better and better at getting rid of motion blur,have WAAAY better 3d,brighter colors and no glare that plasmas have.

This is why for every one plasma TV that is sold they sell 9 LCD/LED's.You can check those facts anywhere on the net.

BTW the hz has very little effect on motion blur,your eye cannot see 600 hz let alone 240hz but yea good try.

 

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Daminada
Posts: 39
Registered: 2002-4-3 08:05:50
_skreWball_ posted:

Daminada posted:

If they haven't conquered the motion blur yet then I don't see plasma going away anytime soon. With a plasma rocking about 600 hz.. well that just rocks.



May wanna do research on them as I did thoroughly, plasmas cost more to build as they use Argon, Neon and Xenon.They give a much worse picture in a bright room and glare, although they have a really good picture at night they are still not as bright as LED's and the colors begin to fade over time and the plamsa TV cannot be fixed once it goes.

LED only requires a replacement of a LED back lite unit and the screen never loses it's colors ever.

The ONLY upside to plasma's is motion blur isn't a problem cause they work a lot like an old crt.The new LED's are getting better and better at getting rid of motion blur,have WAAAY better 3d,brighter colors and no glare that plasmas have.

This is why for every one plasma TV that is sold they sell 9 LCD/LED's.You can check those facts anywhere on the net.

BTW the hz has very little effect on motion blur,your eye cannot see 600 hz let alone 240hz but yea good try.



uh.. you may want to do more research. I have no idea what it costs to build a plasma but you sure as hell can buy them cheaper than an LED and about the same price as a LCD. I'm not sure what you mean when you say that they have a much worse picture in a bright room, my living room has a ton of windows and it looks awesome during the day and at night with no glare. Maybe you are thinking of a plasma from a few years ago? Also, try looking at your LCD at an angle and let me know how that goes for you vs a plasma.

In terms of brightness, that's not an indication of picture quality.. it's just brighter. It's personal preference if you want that bright of a tv or not. For me, a LCD/LED is too bright, it can burn your freaking eyes watching them. And yes, I have a LED in the bedroom.

A plasma does fade over time.. but do the math on it. How many years before you even get to notice the fade and by then.. don't you think you will be buying a new TV? This isn't the 70's where people buy a TV for 30 years, they are inexpensive enough to buy a new one every 5 to 10 years. In fact, the way technology is going you will have to buy a new tv 7 years from now just to watch whatever is being put out in the future.

In terms of repair, do you know how much it costs to change out a LED/LCD light? Oh ya, do the math, you will paying out your rear for that fix.. best just to go buy a new tv.

To say they are getting better and bettering at motion blur tells me that the technology isn't ready for prime time. And the reason why they are selling more LED's... marketing. People are eating them up. And I know you can't see 600 hz.. but I can see 60 and 120 is annoying. I don't know where the cutoff is but I'll take my 600 vs the low 100s any day.

 

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_skreWball_  1 star
Posts: 178
Registered: 2005-10-14 04:07:25
I'm not gonna quote your entire block of eye sore text however go to any local business that sells both and they will educate you.


Plasma's are in fact on their way out, 240 hz LED is the new thing now.Like I stated before for every 1 plasma sold they sell 9 LCD/LED tvs regardless of price because people KNOW plasma's are going extinct,go to best buy anywhere check what TVs they stock the most of then have a LED side by side with a plasma and you will see the difference.

Plasma TV's can consume around 330 watts LED's consume roughly 90-120 watts: http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-consumption-chart/

http://thetelevision.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/is-the-plasma-tv-on-its-way-out/

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/plasma-tv-is-dead

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33010449/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/plasma-starting-fade-out/#.TwkcjVb4K9A

http://tv.toptenreviews.com/flat-panel/plasma/are-plasma-tvs-on-the-way-out-hitachi-seems-to-think-so.html


The list of info goes on for about 3,810,000 results.

They are now working towards laser TV's that will end up fading out LED's over the next years loooooooooong after plasma's been dead for many years.

Have fun with your plasma TV that won't exist in the next couple years.BTW a buddy of mine bought a high end plasma not long ago (price thing fooled them) after they seen my 3d LG LED 55" that only ran me 1200$ they wish they didn't buy the plasma.

In terms of repair, do you know how much it costs to change out a LED/LCD light?

Actually its cheap and VERY easy to install check youtube and there are 100s of videos of people replacing or upgrading to LED.

 

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Daminada
Posts: 39
Registered: 2002-4-3 08:05:50
So, the best you have is that the plasma uses more power and that the technology will eventually go away... then you point out that LED will be going away. EPIC FAIL.

Then you want people to DIY their own tv? EPIC FAIL

Btw, the different between 100 watts and 300 watts is like running 1 light bulb vs 3 light bulbs. Maybe in your trailer shanty that's a huge difference but in my house that's not even a blip on the radar.

 

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_skreWball_  1 star
Posts: 178
Registered: 2005-10-14 04:07:25
LED > Plasma. Game over,enjoy.

 

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Rocktar
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Registered: 2002-1-15 23:29:25
Not going to argue with mentioned reasons above, but I got my TV because it was
1. cheap
2. large
3. solved the input lag for fighting games

Good luck finding your right TV

 

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_skreWball_  1 star
Posts: 178
Registered: 2005-10-14 04:07:25
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/tech/gaming-gadgets/tv-trends-ces/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

SHABLAM! no mention of plasma sorry fellas!

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