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BuffsteriaCantBuff  2 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-3 22:29:57
It's hilarious and depressing at the same time.


Skeetarian posted:

As I don't feel like typing another version of the post I just made on our guild board. My online fate now rests with Sanya:

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I had fun tonight...Apparently for the last time with all of you. sad

Some of you may have already heard. I told the other GMs and officers two nights ago, but now the other shoe appears to have dropped and I am now at the mercy of whatever Sanya Weathers (sanya@mythicentertainment.com) may or may not be able to do for me.

I believe that I have been the target of a calculated and cold-hearted attack upon my very real-life character, over a nickname which I have been known as since 1974 when a friend in the 7th grade couldn't catch me...He said, I was as annoying as a mosquito because I was so fast. From that day on, I have been known as Skeeter or Skeet to my friends.

After beginning to play online in a game called Imperium around 1990 with my long time friend, Buodonn, I took up the online variation - Skeetarian. There were beginning to be more and more 'Skeeter's' already registered as our online world expanded from just the local BBS we used dialed into everyday.

Skeetarian became my online nickname around 1993 and I have used it ever since then and will continue to do so...I refuse to allow the apparent now vulgar slang meaning for the term skeet to force me to abandon my identity.

So, unless something can be done to convince the powers that be at Mythic to reconsider their now confirmed decision...I have logged in for the last time into any game produced by Mythic.

I have enjoyed immensely getting to know all of you and will miss you greatly. But, as you should know by now, I am a man of principle...and this is a very personal principle for me. My very name as been taken from me, by those that either refuse to listen to reason or simply do not care. I will not continue to associate with a company that allows this to occur.

I am sure that should I ever log in my main account again, that my character names will all be changed automatically...So, I will not give them or those that caused me this infuriating circumstance (if I was in fact /appealed) the satisfaction of my names actually ever being changed. They will live on, on the Herald for the next 88 days as a reminder to all that I have had the last decision as to what name my DAoC characters will fade into history as.

I have sent the following letter to the CSR that refused my request for my good name to be reinstated. It includes all email correspondence thus far so you all can see the ultimate insult, whereby Mythic chose to place a Warning on my account...FOR CHOOSING A NAME FOR MY CHARACTERS CONTAINING A SLANG TERM THAT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST WHEN I CREATED THEM!!!

My decision is final. I am especially saddened that I will no longer be logging on to play with all of you, but I hope you will understand and respect my decision. Every time I would log onto my account and have to see my 'new' name I would be reminded of the injustice with which I have been served by the company I was still paying after they have insulted me...Which is NOT going to happen.

So, unless something is done by Sanya and Missy to rectify this situation, I am done. I will continue to read the boards for a while, but once Sanya tells me there is nothing she can do, I will move on.

Sanya and Missy (and Julie before her) have always been honorable in any issues I have discussed with them, regardless of whether I agreed with the decisions their company may have subsequently made about their game...I bear them no ill will and salute their efforts on all of the players' behalf. My ire is reserved for the company they work for, which I used to pay to play.

Farewell. It has indeed been an honor to be associated with what we have all built into the #1 guild in Midgard.

/military

/bow

Skeetarian

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Jerry,

I find it regrettable that you have chosen this position. While I can understand, I feel that my account has been targetted by someone that has it out from me, and Mythic is playing into their hands. I have had numerous contact with Mythic employees over the years, never ONCE has any of them made mention of them.


I plead with you to delve further into this matter with your supervisor. I am at a loss to believe that this is the way Mythic has chosen to treat a long term customer. The names I use are derivatives of my RL nickname that I have had since 1973-74. This is DECADES before anyone chose to turn part of it into a bad word.

Your bowing to whatever pressure you might have felt from some lowlifes that have either /appealed my good name and reputation (which I have worked hard to maintain within the DAoC community) OR from the co-opting of the term skeet and your company is just now getting around to taking issue with is bad enough.

Frankly, the infuriating part of all of this, which has caused a most personal feeling of betrayal, is the callous nature in which this was all handled. It is a sad day to have to think about leaving the game I have enjoyed playing over a name, but it is inconceivable that a warning was placed on my account, when clearly the term which you have taken issue with DID NOT EXIST at the time I created the account and all the names therein.

* My character names have existed for nearly FIVE years within your game
* The slang term that you are punishing me for was only made popular in the last couple of years
* My character names all begin with the 7 same letters, not just the 5 you have taken issue with (Skeetar)
* I have sent many appeals, many bug reports, many feedback forms, many emails, many PMs...and not until 2 days ago was anything EVER said to me about my toon names

Unless my names are restored forthwith, I will be leaving this game forever...and will never again purchase or play any game by Mythic...Which is unfortunate, because I truly felt like Mythic had finally got it right and the game I read about on the box back in 2001 was FINALLY here!

I am copying Sanya and Missy, both of whom I have had much correspondence with over the years, in the hopes that they can talk some sense to someone there in this matter.

Disappointed and disillusioned,

"Skeetarian"

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Customer Support <names@darkageofcamelot.com> wrote:
Greetings,
While many names have alternate meanings which may be individually acceptable within the bounds of our Naming Policy, if an obvious interpretation of the name constitutes a violation, the decision to change the name will stand.
I would be happy to assist you with choosing names for the characters that you want. Please send alternate names; I'll do my best to give you ones of your choosing, as long as they do not break any further rules.
We appreciate you taking time to voice your concerns regarding this case and we hope this response helps clarify our position and reasoning.
Thank you,
Jerry Spencer
Customer Support Lead
Dark Age of Camelot


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From: Skeetarian [mailto:skeetarian@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:01 AM
To: dispute@darkageofcamelot.com
Cc: sanya@mythicentertainment.com
Subject: Re: Your Dark Age of Camelot account
Hi,
I have had this account and used these names since the first day I played DAoC...4 years, 8 months ago! I am more than a little upset that after all these years someone could not have contacted me prior to this action being taken. I'm sure it could have all been cleared up without any fuss.

I am copying Sanya on this email as she should know me from a long enough time ago and be able to vouch for the fact that my names have nothing to do with the slang term that has arisen in the last couple of years.

I'm sorry that some vulgar singers started to make the term skeet mean something dirty, but I have had the nickname Skeet since 1974 when a gradeschool friend noted that I ran fast and was as hard to catch as a mosquito...Hence, Skeet stuck.

Please reinstate my toon names as soon as possible and remove the ridiculous warning on my account.

Sincerely,


"Skeetarian"


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"dispute@darkageofcamelot.com" <dispute@darkageofcamelot.com> wrote:
A warning has been placed on your account for Mythic Entertainment's game "Dark Age of Camelot" due to violations of our Code of Conduct. No further action has been taken at this time. The details of the violations are as follows:

CSR ticket number 6455925
Policy: Character and Guild Naming Policy [clauses:1] (Naming Violation)
Account:
Date: 11:33 PM 8/15/2006

This account has been issued a written warning.

Skeetarian on Bors has been renamed to Servei.
Skeetarian on Igraine has been renamed to Suiria.
Skeetari on Igraine has been renamed to Ulfori.
Skeetario on Igraine has been renamed to Glouis.
Skeetaro on Igraine has been renamed to Naldr.
Skeetarien on Igraine has been renamed to Erdani.
Skeetaru on Igraine has been renamed to Urkvi.
Skeetarian on Lancelot has been renamed to Ingbrert.
Skeetaro on Lancelot has been renamed to Ildr.
Skeetario on Lancelot has been renamed to Jolir.
Skeetarien on Lancelot has been renamed to Aumir.
Skeetarion on Lancelot has been renamed to Ilkel.
Skeetaro on Mordred has been renamed to Attios.
Skeetarian on Percival has been renamed to Sveor.
Skeetari on Percival has been renamed to Igni.
Skeetari on Gareth has been renamed to Erlyni.
Skeetarian on Gareth has been renamed to Nauoi.
Skeetaro on Gareth has been renamed to Asor.
Skeetaru on Pendragon has been renamed to Sveilfr.
Skeetariano on Pendragon has been renamed to Svaerr.
Skeetario on Pendragon has been renamed to Feirni.
Skeetaro on Pendragon has been renamed to Drolfr.
Skeetaryo on Pendragon has been renamed to Eimora.


This type of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated in Dark Age of Camelot. Any further violations will result in a multi-day suspension and the account, possible RP Server Banishment, and/or termination of this account.

The naming policy in full is as follows:

Character and Guild Naming Policy
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When creating a character or guild name for Dark Age of Camelot, it is encouraged that you select a name that reflects the medieval time period, and the realm that you are located in. The guidelines listed below outline the types of names that you can NOT use, and apply to both first names and surnames, as well as guild names.

1. You may not use any names that violate the General Rules and Guidelines. This includes the use of names that are hateful, defamatory, racist, ethnically offensive, obscene, vulgar, sexually explicit, or any other language that is offensive in nature.

2. You may not use names that are harassing or defamatory to other players or employees of Mythic Entertainment.

3. You may not use names of any employee of Mythic Entertainment.

4. You may not use names of copyrighted or trademarked characters, materials or products.

5. You may not use names from popular culture or media.

6. You may not use names that are religiously or historically significant.

7. You may not use proper names of areas within Dark Age of Camelot for character names. Guild names MAY use the proper names of specific areas, to help promote roleplaying and realm pride.

8. You may not use proper names of NPCs within Dark Age of Camelot.

9. You may not use names containing titles or ranks within them.

10. You may not use names that refer to drugs or that are drug related.

11. You may not use names that contain a phrase, sentence or any fragment of a sentence.

12. You may not use names where a combination of the first and last names violate any of the above rules.

13. You may not use misspellings or alternative spellings of names that violate any of the above rules.


Naming Policy Enforcement
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If you violate any part of the above Naming Policy, these are the steps that will be followed to address the issue.

1. If you violate items 1 or 2 above, you may be issued a warning on your account, and will be given a new name by one of our CSR staff. You will NOT be contacted in game to discuss this. If you would like to discuss the renaming, please send an e-mail to names@darkageofcamelot.com.

2. For all other types of violations, a CSR will contact you to discuss the manner of the violation, and you will be told to send an e-mail within 24 hours to Names@darkageofcamelot.com. This e-mail needs to include your account name, the name of the character to be renamed, and your choice of names that you would like us to give you. This is intended to give you the opportunity to think about and choose your new name. If we do not receive a valid name from you within 24 hours, then one will be chosen for you by our CSR staff. If you would like to discuss the renaming, please send an e-mail to names@darkageofcamelot.com.

Changing your name
==================
Character and Guild names within DAoC will not be changed unless they violate the Naming Policy.


Naming Policy for Roleplaying Servers.
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-All names must fit into the medieval setting.
-All names must fit into the realm that you are playing in.
-All policy enforcement for names on the roleplaying servers will be done aggressively by members of the DAoC CS staff, of Server Lead and higher authority. It is in Mythic's sole judgment whether a name breaks the policy, and we will rename characters accordingly. If you see someone with a name that obviously breaks the roleplaying ruleset, please report them.

Disputing Disciplinary Actions
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If you have any questions or concerns about any disciplinary action that is taken against you, please send an e-mail to dispute@darkageofcamelot.com , please include any pertinent information. We will respond to your concerns as soon as possible, and discuss any concerns that you may have.

If you wish to dispute the actions taken against your account, you may email dispute@darkageofcamelot.com.

Thank you,
Dark Age of Camelot Customer Support

 

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JoAyanami  1 star
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This happened over 5 years ago...........
-Jo

 

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Stangkilla  2 stars
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JoAyanami posted:

This happened over 5 years ago...........
-Jo

 

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BuffsteriaCantBuff  2 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-3 22:29:57
JoAyanami posted:

This happened over 5 years ago...........
-Jo



It's still funny. And sad.

 

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Aliciaday  2 stars
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Who saves this kind of stuff for 5 years?

 

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Zultanious  2 stars
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Aliciaday posted:

Who saves this kind of stuff for 5 years?

 

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BuffsteriaCantBuff  2 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-3 22:29:57
Aliciaday posted:

Who saves this kind of stuff for 5 years?



I don't like change.

 

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basiliskUSN  1 star
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TFL;DR

 

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GardianAngel  2 stars
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and, I think he got his names changed back.

 

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Lorderl  1 star
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GardianAngel posted:

and, I think he got his names changed back.


dam, and i was gonna ask for his stuff, standard vnboard policy right haha, j/k. Glad to hear if he got his names back /bow

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