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Divination  1 star
Posts: 91
Registered: 2002-5-23 14:31:58
I have played a necromancer in PvE more than any other class and I can tell you they don't need ML 9. The class is a leveling and farming class and can do well in those two areas.

In RvR, it is bugged due to what you mentioned, and has major flaws in combat due to the easiness of being disrupted and it's slow casting speed. It can only cast while in combat, when a swing is taken and if someone that you are fighting moves away from you after you click FP but before you click the AOE, the spell will not go off and you will lose the FP casts.

For this reason, the class is almost worthless in RvR unless you zerg surf. If you run into a dummy that tries to melee you, then you can beat them, but most people will run through and stun the pet.

Necromancers are not really made for RvR, although a few people that started off as zerg surfers are now at such a high RR that they can do well with all of the extra RA tools they have.

Leave the class alone imo. Enjoy if for what it is, a farming and leveling class. With the new quests and the BG's, its leveling advantage has faded.

 

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Mastara  4 stars
Posts: 1,446
Registered: 2004-12-29 22:52:21
They dont need help. They need to be nerfed.

 

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Pillowjunky
Posts: 45
Registered: 2008-6-13 06:30:13
I think suppression runemasters need a lot more love before necros. PBT is almost useless nowadays. They have a short 1500 range cast that's easily interrupted. And their only true form of crowd control is root. And even that is on the same immunity timer as their 2.8 second low damage snare. The only things they bring to a group are nearsight and PBT. Not worth bringing them into a group.
DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
Pillowjunky posted:

I think suppression runemasters need a lot more love before necros. PBT is almost useless nowadays. They have a short 1500 range cast that's easily interrupted. And their only true form of crowd control is root. And even that is on the same immunity timer as their 2.8 second low damage snare. The only things they bring to a group are nearsight and PBT. Not worth bringing them into a group.


Supp is a good spec for open field group fights. Obviously dark and rc are better for adding, leeching, zerging, zerg surfing, etc since they bring more dps through spec nukes and resist debuffing. Nonetheless, pbt is incredibly useful, you have higher than 1500 range with red ns (2300 range), their spells are not unique in how "easily interrupt[able]" they are, supp snare nuke is the same across all three realms realms and is meant to be low damage since it adds a snare component, and most (8/14) casters have only one form of CC.

 

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Pillowjunky
Posts: 45
Registered: 2008-6-13 06:30:13
The other casters can also spec for nearsight.

And most other casters have two forms of CC. Some have mezzes with roots. Some have mezzes with stuns. Heck, even enchanters now have stun and root. There is a reason nobody ever sees suppression runemasters around. Heck, since the BD nerfs, I never even see suppression BDs around. Maybe the developers hate suppression specs?
DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
Pillowjunky posted:

The other casters can also spec for nearsight.


Relevance? Unless you meant the other spec lines can get nearsight, then yes that's true.


Pillowjunky posted:

And most other casters have two forms of CC.


As previously stated, six casters have two forms of CC, and 6/14 is not most.


Pillowjunky posted:

Some have mezzes with roots.


Sorc, Air Theurg, and SM.


Pillowjunky posted:

Some have mezzes with stuns.


Eld and Ment.


Pillowjunky posted:

Heck, even enchanters now have stun and root.


The only class that has this, and this is a very recent addition.

To reiterate, that is 6/14, which is not most.


Pillowjunky posted:

There is a reason nobody ever sees suppression runemasters around. Heck, since the BD nerfs, I never even see suppression BDs around. Maybe the developers hate suppression specs?


Again, it's a spec for open field group fights, so it will clearly be less common than zerging or zerg surfing Dark or RC RMs. Supp RM is the spec of choice in BD, RM, SM setups. And Supp BD stopped being a group spec when the specialized pets were added to BD spec lines making Dark BDs far better for grouping for the dread lich.

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
P.S. I see you still haven't learned since over two years ago, Pillowjunky.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
cleric has stun and mez and snare

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
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Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
PasswordLLOTH posted:

cleric has stun and mez and snare


He said casters~

 

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orrime  1 star
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Registered: 2010-4-15 03:34:07
PasswordLLOTH posted:

cleric has stun and mez and snare



Sounds op, they should nerf cleric.

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