Vyxar posted:

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From a crafter PoV. I like 2-5 quite a bit and if kort/loki/gearbunny output could be substituted as input for 1 !manual_work I would be a happy camper from a customer pov.

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Vyxar posted:

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I can imagine people who want to work with a crafter who don't want to use mojo locally so what about a web app version that could either import a file from your program (or other sc programs) or let folks do that nasty manual work online.

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Vyxar posted:

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If you are capturing whole templates you could use the non-crafted items to build up that item db discussed, and if you have templates and a web server with them you could give the option to publish them for the community.

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Exp_Tristan posted:

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OFN, the DAoC_chatfixer has done this for a LONG time now, since 2008!

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Sure the chatfixer does that, but can it also log you in game with a single click? Can you log in multiple characters with a single click? DON'T THINK SO!!

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Sure the chatfixer does that, but can it also log you in game with a single click? Can you log in multiple characters with a single click? DON'T THINK SO!!

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Windwalkr posted:

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Any programmer worth a lick can make a char-file copier utility in one evening of free time. It's not rocket science to do a little file handling. Mojo is leaps and bounds more involved, and if you had a clue you'd recognize that and not try to diss someone for spending many hours of free time making FREE software!


I used ChatLogFixer a handful of times over the past few years, and I thank you for taking the time to do something that I easily could have done myself in an evening of spare time programming; but I didn't! That much credit is due and I thanked you in the past for creating this useful little utility. However, it doesn't buy you the right to diss other programmers creating free software for this community. Your idea was nothing if not for the existence of DAoC, obviously, and everyone was already doing the same thing manually anyway! You simply automated a manual process. Good work! Thanks! Now lay off thinking you're some kinda programming genius for having done a rather minor utility, and that someone else is infringing on your "genius ideas" by extending a rather old minor utility with a pretty significant upgrade. (Networking)


Thanks robbie for this Mojo update and your continued sacrifices of your free time to create free tools for this community!

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Exp_Tristan posted:

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YOu really think all the Chatfixer does is file Copy? boy you need to run more features in it then! It started out as a Chat box fixer when Mythic F*&^ed up the chatboxes in 2007. Then the Character Fixer was added, then the Character Copier was added when ywain went live, then the Backup and Restore function? You think that can be written overnight? YOU are the one that needs to get a F*&^ing clue, you ever look at a Character.ini file and see all the crap in there? Then write an automated process to strip stuff out and file parse another character file and insert that stuff in without screwing up the target character file? You may think it's simple shit. It isn't!

Yea i got on Robbie89766565 or whatever new account he has made today, and ya know i was wrong for that. But dont say you can do this shit in a day, because you can't! And if you think i am a newb programmer your wrong, i have been doing this shit for 20 years, before your ass was even born.

If You think you can mimic the mojo app or chatfixer in features? then DO IT. If not then STFU!

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Exp_Tristan posted:

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No, Actually logging more than 1 toon in with a single click is against the EULA, just like the CHEATKEYNET app, Read your EULA!

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Windwalkr posted:

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Exactly.

Is it network aware and goes out to find other instances of itself running on other PCs, thus enabling cool features like moving char settings from one PC to another without manually copying files? It's a completely new idea, albeit based on an existing simpler one. Both automate what was a manual process.

Do you guys have any idea how much know-how it takes to do that as compared to a simple file copy/restore manager? (Not to mention doing it right, with features to ensure that you don't mangle important user-data files and end up causing the users more headaches rather then alleviating them!) I assure you, you won't be doing that in a spare evening or two of free time.

It's kinda like a text-based MUD developer from 1980s complaining about modern MMOs "stealing" their idea of a text-chat feature. Ignoring that "little tid-bit" about the effort involved in creating a top-notch 3D game engine, and the MMO server-architecture to go along with it.

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Please show me this line. I remember a while back they changed it to where you can't perform 1 key on multiple characters. Nothing about loading into game with a simple click. I mean I save about 2 mins to load into game. I don't get anything special for it when I am in game.

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Exp_Tristan posted:

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Here ya go, this is where CHEATKEYNET is against the EULA, it transmits data to and from the game, I.E. automated keystrokes detected from a packet sniffing program. from a remote computer. There are probably other clauses as well, but this is the one i found.

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Todd Gropp (Mythic) posted:

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My name is Todd Gropp, and I am the Senior Manager of Customer Service for Mythic. I would like to talk to you about the change in the ability for CS to detect and discipline players that are performing multiple actions, on multiple characters, on multiple accounts with one keystroke.

This behavior has always been a violation of DAoC’s Rules of Conduct. Specifically, this breaks rules 13, 14, and 16, which I’ve included below. I’ve been playing DAoC since launch, and I’ve been a part of CS here for six and a half years. We’ve been aware of multi-box teams since their inception and have received player feedback regarding the issue since that time. Where the change in our stance as a studio has come into play:

* Clustering has increased the contact rate of players in the game world.
* We now have technology to determine whether a set of characters that appear to be played by one person is being controlled by multi-box means.

CS does not warn, suspend or terminate an account for the use of a 3rd party program or hardware without being able to detect it on our side, no matter how sure we are of what we visually verify. When asked by players what exactly a violation of these rules would be, our CSR’s are instructed to advise the following:

* “One keystroke should only perform one action, on one character, on one account. Anything which is used to circumvent this would be a violation.”

With the creation of the Ywain “Super-Cluster”, player feedback on multi-box play within DAoC has increased dramatically. While this feedback is not specific to PvE or RvR areas of the game the Development team has taken this Feedback seriously (as always), and made the decision to reach out to Customer Service and determine what we would need in order to curb the use of any software or hardware which would allow players to multi-box. After much discussion a plan was put into motion, and the final result is what you are seeing from us now.

If you are playing Dark Age of Camelot and you come across a group of characters all performing synchronized actions in a way which you feel could only be accomplished by 3rd party means, please file a Violation report. Include every character name that you see taking part. We will be investigating these reports thoroughly. In concert with our new technology, accounts which are performing these actions will be disciplined based upon the investigation. Do know that the investigation does not revolve around the exact timing of the character abilities/spells/etc. being used.

The discipline for this behavior, if verified during the investigation, is quite strict. This is due to the severe impact on the experience of other players on the server, and the means in which these actions are performed. Multi-day suspensions at the least, up to permanent account termination at the most are what you should expect. We will never discuss the action taken against another account with you, but we are very serious about trying to ensure a fun and fair environment for all of you. We always strive to improve both the game itself, and your experience within it. We, of course, welcome your feedback on any changes that we make to our service via the Camelot Herald: http://camelotherald.com/feedback/index.php.

* Full Rules of Conduct: http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/ ... php?id=073
* Rule 13: Use any scripting or macroing tools, hardware or software.
* Rule 14: Use any game hacking/altering/cheating software or tools. Use of these types of programs will result in immediate termination of the Account and may subject you to civil and/or criminal liability.
* Rule 16: Engage in any behavior that is contrary to the 'spirit of the game' as defined by Mythic in its sole discretion.

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