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MacAran Posts: 60
Registered: 2006-4-15 08:00:01
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I assume spreadheal not showing up on heal stats is a bug, but is spreadheal not giving rps a bug or working as intended? I see a lot of clerics in keep sieges using group heals instead of spreadheals when a spreadheal would actually keep the group alive just so they can pad rps. Not sure if mythic did this intentionally because getting rps from spreadheal would "too" easy, or if maybe they just want to encourage bad healing since in the current game people can spam the 39 spreadheal and never run out of power, making people too hard to kill?
If it _is_ a bug, do people think it should even be fixed? I use spreadheals and my groups hardly ever die. If EVERYONE did no one would die without serious assisting. Bad/good?
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It is not a bug and is working as intended. No rps, and it won't add healing to your /stat healing. Edit to add: This is also because spreadheal is not technically a heal. It is a casted spell that adds healing to a pool which is instantly used, thus why you will notice lower heal values with fewer members in your group. It's like a casted DI that is used and dispersed instantly. Because of this mechanic it won't add to your rps or /stat
If everyone was using spread heals you'd be healing really slow. I understand the draw of the spreadheal but in comparison to the spec group heal it is not ideal for most situations. You may not realize it but those few fractions of a second can be the difference between someone dieing and someone living.
It can be argued, but in the end it comes down to how fast you are healing. In most cases with a good template and no relics you can get close to 350-400 for your spec group heal with the lvl 35ish spec heal.
If someone is being assist targeted then ideally you'd want one healer doing spec group and one doing spreads to keep them alive.
I wrote up stuff about it on the druid wiki here under the tactics a while ago.
I know you say no one ever dies but it is probably not only based on you casting spreadheal. But rather a combination of spec group and spreadheal. I've found it much better to use the spec group heal in most situations.
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Jim_Digriz Posts: 119
Registered: 2001-11-10 07:09:49
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Most heals are situational and if you limit yourself to one heal type you are limiting your development as a healer.
Spreadheals are useful because they do heal for large amounts, but they are slow. They are most effective for use when members of your party are diseased, until you have time to cure it that is - make that a priority.
If your group is coming under concentrated caster fire chances are spamming spreadheal will be too slow. 3.5 as opposed to 2.2 for a OJ spec group heal. Or if you have line of sight, use single target greaters. Healing a ram driver, most of the time a major heal will be best, though be prepared to switch to greaters if they come under extra fire. Or groups if they run out of LOS. If you get low on power, switch to baseline groupheals. These are not ideal and wont save people under concentrated fire, but they will keep people up through incidental fire and allow you to regen power.
Better yet, learn how to use your single targets more effectlively and get away from the zerg.
Mythic made spreadheals not give rps or add to /stats by design, to help discourage people from just relying on one heal and becoming lazy healers.
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Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
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TropicanaJones posted:
It is not a bug and is working as intended. No rps, and it won't add healing to your /stat healing. Edit to add: This is also because spreadheal is not technically a heal. It is a casted spell that adds healing to a pool which is instantly used, thus why you will notice lower heal values with fewer members in your group. It's like a casted DI that is used and dispersed instantly. Because of this mechanic it won't add to your rps or /stat
Kind of, but also it's a self heal (delve it) that generates a pool and distributes it to your group. Healing yourself never gains RPs or /stat heal.
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Jim_Digriz posted:
Most heals are situational and if you limit yourself to one heal type you are limiting your development as a healer.
Spreadheals are useful because they do heal for large amounts, but they are slow. They are most effective for use when members of your party are diseased, until you have time to cure it that is - make that a priority.
If your group is coming under concentrated caster fire chances are spamming spreadheal will be too slow. 3.5 as opposed to 2.2 for a OJ spec group heal. Or if you have line of sight, use single target greaters. Healing a ram driver, most of the time a major heal will be best, though be prepared to switch to greaters if they come under extra fire. Or groups if they run out of LOS. If you get low on power, switch to baseline groupheals. These are not ideal and wont save people under concentrated fire, but they will keep people up through incidental fire and allow you to regen power.
Better yet, learn how to use your single targets more effectlively and get away from the zerg.
Mythic made spreadheals not give rps or add to /stats by design, to help discourage people from just relying on one heal and becoming lazy healers.
Added to this...in a mixed group with tanks and casters if you use spreadheal casters surrely will die in a heartbeat. Because only the groupmember with lowest hp get heals while tanks can with 20% still survive, casters won't till you get your spreadheal out. In most cases spreadheal isn't the best solution no matter what a know-it-all groubmember might say or think. Singleheal if you have los is often best choice.
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Simon387 Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2008-11-2 05:59:14
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even if spread is better
clerics in keep siege use the group heals for the rps lol
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Corfel Posts: 510
Registered: 2008-4-3 12:02:45
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Simon387 posted:
even if spread is better
clerics in keep siege use the group heals for the rps lol
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Darcstarr Posts: 45
Registered: 2009-8-19 08:37:18
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Disease or getting your group in guarded a tower or keep are the only times I use spread. It is like training wheels for new healers...or lazy. Take it off your main bar and use group and single target heals and not just for the RP's, unless you're buffbot spec'd your spec heals are going to be faster and more efficient with a little know how and work.
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Date Posted:
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Darcstarr posted:
Disease or getting your group in guarded a tower or keep are the only times I use spread. It is like training wheels for new healers...or lazy. Take it off your main bar and use group and single target heals and not just for the RP's, unless you're buffbot spec'd your spec heals are going to be faster and more efficient with a little know how and work.
Spread heal is a powerful heal even in open field fights. If you take it off your "main bar" and only use it in siege, you aren't utilizing your healer to its fullest. People who never use spreadheal because they think it's a nub spell are just as bad as the people who do nothing but spreadheal.
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Simon387 Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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