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Corfel  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-4-3 12:02:45
Can you shed some light on the recent LD/Latency issues?

I know from asking in game and the boards that alot of UK players are having really bad latency/ping issues and constant LDs

There is zero problem with my PC or internet provider - I even went so far as to re-install the game etc and yet I still cannot play the game


Some info on what is happening would be appreciated because as of right now the game is unplayable for me and many others from what I gather


here's a quick thread for reference : http://vnboards.ign.com/daoc_general_board/b5176/116454117/p1/?6

 

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Semi4  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
Corfel posted:

Can you shed some light on the recent LD/Latency issues?


I know from asking in game and the boards that alot of UK players are having really bad latency/ping issues and constant LDs


There is zero problem with my PC or internet provider - I even went so far as to re-install the game etc and yet I still cannot play the game


[colorurple]Unless you have run extensive tests on both your computer and on the ISP you really do not know that your end, or all the equipment your ISP uses, is completely fine. If you have run tests, you should post those results.[/color]


Some info on what is happening would be appreciated . . . . .


[colorurple] It is interesting that you should say, “Some info on what is happening would be appreciated . . . . .” because I was thinking the same thing, but in reverse.


People with tech challenges need to post tech info. Some tech info would be appreciated[/color]

You need to understand that most tech support people quickly come to learn that the vast majority of computer users are techie-morons and as such the typical tech support person needs a vast amount of evidence to show that a problem is in the companies equipment and not in the users hardware or in the network. . . because typically unless everyone in the game is having trouble, chances are the trouble is in the ISP or the user’s hardware. It is sad that most tech services people will assume the typical user is not tech savvy but that is how it is.


A few (a very small number of) players simply showing up on a forum and saying, “I have connection trouble and it’s the fault of the game company so they should fix it.” Has never (well almost never) gotten a game company to send their tech people scurrying over the game servers trying to find a problem.


While more than one person seems to be having trouble, there are not thousands of posts on this thread about players having trouble and there are more than 10k subs. If only 50 out of 10k are having trouble the chances are the problem is not in the game server. . . it may be in the game server but it should be obvious why it could be difficult to convince a game company to seriously spend bunches of their limited resources on hunting down a problem when it seems that the problem is not in the game servers.


I have mentioned this in past posts but it seems it needs to be said again, people with tech challenges need to post tech info. It is part of the process of convincing the game company to assign resources to a challenge.


First you post tech info, then you post more complete tech info after players post questions asking for more complete info, then you post a dxdiag report because techie players need even more info, then you post trace reports, etc. . . . then some techie player discovers the root of the challenge and shows you how to fix it or some common thread shows up, common to most players that have the trouble, and that thread indicates a challenge with the server equipment and finally the company begins looking on their end.


Whatever the cause of the challenge the solution begins with those players who have trouble, running some tests and posting vast amounts of tech info. That is how the process begins.


Anyone with connection trouble needs to post a:


Dxdiag report

ISP info

Modem/router info (including if wired or wifi)

Game lag/performance meter info at moment the game has trouble

Trace report info http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/article.php?id=305


Also, you say, “UK players are having really bad latency/ping issues and constant LDs” but is it packet loss or is it latency?

 

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Geeo  1 star
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Registered: 2009-7-15 13:16:16
Ye the ld's have been really bad lately, also i keep getting random screen shudders

 

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Dacian1977
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Registered: 2010-4-10 13:34:06
i play from EU , France in fact and i dont experience any lag issue, so maybe is related to UK direct provider , dont think is a problem on Daoc servers
MrBlixten
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Registered: 2009-8-31 04:43:30
Play from Sweden and dont have these lagg/ld issues.
JaadedK
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Registered: 2002-10-20 16:39:02
Geeo posted:

Ye the ld's have been really bad lately, also i keep getting random screen shudders



I have never experienced the screen shudders until Saturday and it does not seem to be getting any better. Only happening on one of our pcs that we are playing on though.

Living in the states here.

 

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Geeo  1 star
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Registered: 2009-7-15 13:16:16
JaadedK posted:

Geeo posted:

Ye the ld's have been really bad lately, also i keep getting random screen shudders



I have never experienced the screen shudders until Saturday and it does not seem to be getting any better. Only happening on one of our pcs that we are playing on though.

Living in the states here.



Ye started happening Saturday also

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
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Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
JaadedK posted:

Geeo posted:

Ye the ld's have been really bad lately, also i keep getting random screen shudders



I have never experienced the screen shudders until Saturday and it does not seem to be getting any better. Only happening on one of our pcs that we are playing on though.

Living in the states here.



only happens on 1 of your PC's.. rules out, internet problem and mythic right there... from a purely trouble shooting end...

if 1 pc at a location is fine, and the other is not.. its obviously the PC end...

 

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Semi4 posted:

Corfel posted:




Whatever the cause of the challenge the solution begins with those players who have trouble, running some tests and posting vast amounts of tech info. That is how the process begins.



So long winded for no reason fact is it's on their end period. Many ppl who have never had DAoC connectivity issues are having them now. This includes me and all my RL friends who aren't even in the same state.

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
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Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
CrazyNickName posted:

Semi4 posted:

Corfel posted:




Whatever the cause of the challenge the solution begins with those players who have trouble, running some tests and posting vast amounts of tech info. That is how the process begins.



So long winded for no reason fact is it's on their end period. Many ppl who have never had DAoC connectivity issues are having them now. This includes me and all my RL friends who aren't even in the same state.



except, as noted above, where the guy has computers that are fine,and computers that arent...

if 1 computer works fine, and 1 doesnt.... that means its a local PC issue, not a server side issue....

now it could be something in the game client changed that caused it not to work with certain hardware/software configurations... but again thats a PC end problem to be sorted out where the problem lays... not mythics server...

or could be an isp started blocking particular UTP traffic, wich happened once with comcast while they were attempting to block torrents... it killed daoc for alot of comcast customers.. but again.. not mythics server end..

there could be any number of thousands of variables...

but you get hundreds of people playing just fine on the server = server is functioning properly... those people experiencing problems are only a handful and in some cases like the guy with 1 pc working and 1 not... obviously PC end problems reducing that handful of unknown lag people even more....

so the only way to find a solution, is testing, lots of testing, lots of changing files, connections, take your PC to a friends house that has a difrent ISP, route through a proxy to try and change the hops to get to mythics servers.... all kinds of things to trouble shoot and try to find the core of the problem...

but just saying its mythics fault then doing nothing on your end.. will never see a solution to the problem, because if the majority of players dont have problems, then the problem isnt mythics end.

 

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