You think anyone will actually read this thread at mythic..I hope so

The chants idea is great, as buffs for 30 second pets wouldn't work so well, but...


Not sure about other servers, but there's quite a lack of runspeed on mine, and when we get to wherever we're going, I'm requested to turn on pbt. If Mythic did implement more chants, it would be even more difficult to juggle them, and it would probably be very difficult to keep up on power if we had to attempt to twist castable spells. (This would not address Albion's current lack of decent pbt, either, as most are already secondary pbt casters, and would probably go for the spells that improve their chances for killspam over the spells that have a possibility of helping their realm.) Also, most chants have around the same range, and if you're casting a pet, you'll probably be out of that range already.


I'm more in favor of giving theurgists more utitlity and damage, instead of making pets more powerful. It's currently one of the leading complaints against us. Understandably having better nukes may not go over well either, but a person's common complaint with pets is that they:


A) Chainstun while the theurgist nukes them to death. <sigh> Really wish they'd remember that Mythic did address that, aka nerf, and that a theurgist can only cast as many pets as they have power for, before someone realizes what's going on and nukes/hacks-to-pieces said caster. At the current power cost, it's *maybe* 8-ish? (Rough estimate, as I don't do it often.) And on top of that, if they'd run when they saw the whirl around them indicating air pets were coming, this wouldn't even be an issue. I know I sure as heck run if I see an elf or keen with glowing spells on his/her hands.


B) If you send enough pets at someone currently, they die. (Probably far from the truth, but if a person was just rezzed, and unbuffed, and didn't have runspeed of any kind, and didn't see a massive army of elementals headed their way, and didn't move... it's possible.)


Also, I seriously doubt the ideas to air pets would fly at all in MythicLand. You're asking for the pets to run faster (so they can't be outrun), and to swing faster (so they have more chances to stun). Afraid the public outcry on this one would nerf theurgists into nonexistance, even worse than we are now.


I remain favorable to the ideas that give earth a gtae, or possibly a nuke of its own, lower the power costs on ice nukes to be equivalent with those of their air brethren, cause the ice pets to be resisted less often, give air 1500 mez, tune down the power costs of pbt, make siege bolt worth its weight in points or drop the points on it, give single-target stun to air, give a cold or spirit resist debuff in the earth line, change around the way ice nukes work so they don't negate AE root, give ae friction to earth (even though it sounded like sarcasm in the post more than anything, it's still an idea), etc, etc. So many ideas have been put forth so far, without a peep from anyone in charge. It's terrible.


And I really hope Mythic does read this, as it's Julie's job to do so, and currently all she's been doing is reading the easy posts and passing on the ideas.


edit: typing is teh suq.

bump

an earthquake, AE DD, could be fun in earth line


ice could use improved pets (LOS)


air could use a 1500 ranged AE mez


our (laughable) class RA should be less than 10 pts : on my server, i never seen a theurg using it (i still dont know what it looks like !)

The TL is trying to get or damage add and attack speed bufs when cast on us transfer to the pets. They can do it just like they do stat tranfers for Necros.

Having the damage add and haste transfer to pets would be good, but it would help all the specs equally (well, no completely equally since the wind pets are the shortest lived). The fact is that earth and ice need some special loving.


Wind just needs the mez range upped to 1500 like everyone else, or at least a real explanation from Mythic as to why, after 15 months of asking for the mez range to be upped, they feel it is overpowered to grant that.

"This is about the third topic I've seen in the past month or two. They can't realistically ignore theurgists forever."


*looks at 1.63a* Or can they?

buffing pets I see as kinda pointless, they are very short lived and easy to run away from, and have no hit points. More pets would be a good idea, A pet RA would be something nice, a damage spell in the Earth line would be nice, lowering the power for PBT and Pets would be nice, PBT on Insta cast timer would be nice, making wind mez range 1500 would be nice, Giving us two spec points would be nice, but I really want to see mythic come up with their own crazy idea, I mean they are the ones responisble for the slight pbt nerf to our class./

Good evening Camelot. On tonight's ajenda: Bump!


Mythic tends to do huge patches with massive impacts, and then one or two "fluff" and "fix" patches to see the repurcussions of the previous patches, and then returns to the balance and such. I don't really forsee theurg love in 1.63, but maybe 1.64. (And yeah, I know how much that thought sucks.)


My hope is that when they return to hib, and maybe mid, they'll remember us, finally. I mean hell, they didn't give us love in "Alb Love Patch", maybe they've forgotten they didn't put us in hib or mid instead.

Good to see you posting up there John (Temulence in game, right?). Yes, I was there last time we went through this begging process also. I wound up quitting for a couple of months after it, but a few things not having to do with my theurgist brought me back. SI was a big one, it allowed me to pl my wizard from 30 to 40 and get a better class out to RVR.


I won't be quitting this time, but there will be many theurgists who will. What other evidence do you need Mythic? Why won't you help us?