I second Jared. Most of us here are serious diggers, and appreciate speculative conversation about various theories and ideas. If you have nothing constructive, go away.

I don't care either way if you can or can't level on a failed dig but proving you CAN'T do something is basically impossible. It is itself a contradiction.

>> proving you CAN'T do something is basically impossible


Well, you should take more math classes --- sometimes it is.


I do agree that the photo does not really prove anything --- At wait 16, if you press /wait 13 macro once, wait 5 seconds, and press again, you will succeed on the second macro.


And those who have personally experienced "level increase" after a failed dig should expect some cross-examination (which by nature accuses you of being mistaken). That's what constructive discussions do, because people do make mistakes.


You never get weapon or magic skill up if you "fail" --- but you get skillups on failed crafting attempts under certain conditions.


BTW, why are we all so interested in whether you get skill ups from failed digs?

>> BTW, why are we all so interested in whether you get skill ups from failed digs?


Excellent point.


Am I the only person that wishes you could rent a chocobo in tavnazian safehold?


It'd be a fun set of zones to dig in (misareaux/lufaise)- as long as you dont get booted from your choco in the high level area in northeast lufaise XD

Being able to get skill up from failed digs would affect people's digging habits when they are concentrating on raising skill as opposed to digging to make money. Might be more willing to go dig in less popular zones that are almost never dug up if that would help me get to a higher skill level faster.


Perhaps it makes a difference if the failed dig is due to the one being dug out as opposed to just failing to get an item that is there.

 

-----signature-----

I thought about that --- but unless you know the likelihood of getting a skill up from a failed dig versus the likelihood of getting a skill up from a successful dig, you still wouldn't know if you should go to a dug up place with good loot or an unpopular place with nothing but pebbles.


For instance, what if you get a skill up 1 out of 10 successful digs and 1 out of 300 failed digs?


Just a thought. Personally, any new information is welcome regardless of the usefulness --- as long as it is correct --- but I was wondering about the usefulness of this issue nonetheless.

I never said I wasnt a serious digger Piratemangina. And I have provided very relavent information and theories to the topic, yall just keep telling people you can lvl off digging nothing that way your competition is kept to a minimum^^

I don't think you get it -- and I doubt you'll believe me either -- but we're saying you can lvl off of digging nothing BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED TO US. Not to try and "keep the competition down" Anyone interested enough in digging to read all or part of this thread is not going to be turned off or on by whether or not you can lvl on an unsucessful dig because guess what? It doesn't matter. It's still going to take everyone slightly different amounts of greens to lvl, regardless of what's doing the lvling, and I think just about everyone will agree with that.

yes, what twyleth said.


honestly I don't worry about competition as it's a good 3-4 months of heavy digging before any new digger can even begin to pose a threat to my profit margin.


this thread is for diggers to share their experiences or flesh out theories, it's certainly NOT the place for name calling.

So are any of you high level diggers (past lvl 6 or 60 or how ever you messure it ) also high level fishers?


Can anyone arrest my fears of the caps existing accross fishing and digging?


It's a wild fear i know, but someone jumping in and just saying. "eah i'm area 10, and fishing 90" (honestly)

woudl realy make me sleep better at night