Damn thats right before i left i saw the allince message and was told the last of one before last made u lag super bad

 

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"Mavryek, let me ask you a question. Why did you (assuming you did go on the Hib land Rape Raid and if not disregard this question) take out the Hib RK doors?"


I was not personally on the raid in Hib, I was in the cg for it. There was a number of us that stayed behind repaired the door in excal and then moved to Beno as we knew the hibs would come. We defended beno and called in new troops to defend other keeps. We lost Eras for a short time and repelled some small attacks on Surs and Beno. As to why the raiders took out the relic doors. Well that all part of warefare, after all this is a warfare combat setting, or is supposed to be. If the enemy has a weakend relic keep it will take time to repair and thus slow their attacks at taking Albs relics. As stated in other threads this is not a new tactic. Hibs and Mids have both employed this tactic on Albs Power and Str. keeps even they were both empty.


Now why did I post to this thread.

This a realm vs realm game. Not a group vs group game. Blaming Albion for the owes of Hib is lame and anyone that does so should go find another game to play, because this game is not suited to your syle of game play.


Play a game that is team death match, there are a number of games out built just for that. Why play a game that is not suited to your style? Why cry and moan about it when you should have known it was not a small group based combat system? Why get upset when the game does not pan out the way you wanted? It is not the fault of those playing in Alb that another realm feels that they are under populated and can not compete.


I myself do not feel that Hib can not compete, I feel they choose not to because they can not wtfpwn the other 2 realms on a constant bases.


Sure there are issues with the game that only the people at Mythic can solve, but population balance is not one of them. Only the game players in each realm can effect that. So when some new comes to your realm and begins a toon do they feel welcome, do they find the type of interaction they are looking for? Does that realm offer the type of toon they want to play? The only thing that mythic can change is the last, the other 2 are on the population of the server to make happen.


Mavryek

50 Paladin

"Ty for confriming you haven't been around very long King.


Hibs were in fact the first ones to do it against an enemy realm, then mids followed suit. Hibs and Mids even came on here bragging about it.


Corse now that someone has done it against them, it's a completely horrendous thing to do, and everyone involved should be burned at the stake. Not nice when the same things you do to other realms, is done back onto you, is it? "


Lol ok, well thanx for conferming how Albs think their childesh behavors are some how justified. Eye for an eye right? About time though right, it's been like what, nearly 2 years since Hibs/Mids "did it" to you guys and now you say to yourselves, we'll repeat the same stupid stunt they did to us so long ago to teach them a lesson right? Well good job, you really showed those 20 Hibs that are still around from the start of the game who is boss.


This would be like if America went over and took over the UK and said, Ha! How the hell does it feel now?!


Well by your terms your no better then Hibs or Mids if you did this just out of spite and revenge.


Glad I don't have to deal with this shit in game anymore.

I see nothing has changed around here, Hibs and mids at Alb's throat, go go gadget flame war. Can you feel the lav? kthxbai


edit: omg Reigning passed my post count, what the heck is going on around here? Has the world really become that twisted? I guess it has. Alb monkey zergling signing out *bows*

lol you really do like twisting words around, like others on this thread. My point is that it seems to be completely all right for hibs and mids to do it, even come on and brag they did. however the microsecond alb does it, it's considered the worst possible thing in the world.


Do you know what that's called, King? Hipocracy.


Ever here the phrase, "Do onto others, as you would have them do onto you." ? I'm guessing no, since you seem to be saying that it's ok for hibs and mids, but not for albs. Key words there being SEEM TO BE. Gods forbid anything be taken out of context, or twisted to fit your 4 year old mind.


Actually it's more like mids and albs telling hibs to stop whinning, because we've been on the recieving end of what we KNOW they are capable of.

who ever decided that a treb raid on renaris was teh way to go was just plain silly. may have worked in mid but not in renaris. too much trafic for the time it takes to do a treb raid.


as for the albs... what does any one expect. we call them the zerg because that is what they are. a mindless mob that is only encouraged by victory.


takeing keeps = victory

droping relic doors = victory

50 albs on 8 hibs = victory

owning DF = victory

hibs quiting = victory


I am not saying any of it is right. i am simply stating the facts.


the way to defeat alb is to make victory hard and painfull. only when they are losing even when they win will albs lose moral and be the shoo flies they are when they have no leadership.


we can take a relic today and it wont mean squat. we can take all alb keeps and it wont get us diddly. we can build and maintain the greatest alliance any realm has ever seen but unless that alliance is focused on a long term goal we will never be back on top. hell we will bearly hold our own.


first off. the relic doors. who gives a flying [mod]. it really sux. it was a slap in the face but you know what? we arent takeing or holding relics for a bit any way so why stress over it. we get free doors after patch so lets not even worry about relics till after patch except to force reaction from the enemy.


second. for the last few weeks we have been doing well. are you really gonna let albs win by taking our keeps? how long would it take to get back all those keeps. not long i assure you. the door upgrades may be a bother but why stress about hib doors. at this point in time i would not take a door above 5 unless it was an alb keep. and level 5 only because that is an easy level to achieve and about the level that forces an enemy to use rams thus makeing a keep take more or less a planned event rather than a free victory for 4 lonely groups of albs in emain.


third pick your battles and fight them to the end even if the end is an inevitable loss. why? because if albs spend over an hour trying to take crim only to have it droped by hibs or mids later when no one cares their victory becomes a defeat. they beging to say to each other whats teh point. keep takes do not provide much RP for the takers and ownership in a relicless land is not very usefull.


four. play for something besides RP. THE ALBS ZERG. get used to it. if your pissed because albs wont 8 vs 8. then you get pissed because they wont let you hold keeps. then get pissed because they can respond to everything with overwhelming numbers stop playing or stop getting pissed. use that against them. We hibs know how annoying it is to have to drop everything. we hibs know how much a constant call to arms can destroy unity and that is our only enemy in alb. unity.


five. take a more strategic look at the game and plan ahead there are things happening that will play directly into hib hands if we just have the mind to take advantage of it.


take those 5 things and ball them togeater and you ahve the fist that will bring alb down to its knees. we did it before and it took a single heartfelt post and a determined leader with a sight for more than todays battle to turn alb around. do you think a few keeps or a few relics is all it takes to bring us back to the top? we have always yelled the "tactics" argument. Its time we used strategy.


BTW albs.. will probabhly not be hibs great leader. i have a strategic mind but tacticly I am not even a shadow to some like you find in KoS, DoC, HALO and many of the other leading guilds. I also do not play as much as it would take to lead in the way that is needed. but I assure you .. you have consistantly raised the bar on what is acceptably brutal in this game. you have now raised it to a point where the only way to have fun is to ensure that your enemy has no fun at all. this server cannot take much more. I understand its due to the mob mentality no single alb is responsible or able to controll the zerg and its actions.. i understand but it is not an excuse. welcome to the new DAOC

"Sure there are issues with the game that only the people at Mythic can solve, but population balance is not one of them."


mav, i'll let you retract that statement.


otherwise, you pass vlad (the hunter, not the hero) as the least intelligent poster on this forum.

Oh boy here come the test scores claim!

"Do you know what that's called, King? Hipocracy."


I never been on a raid in which we would take down someones RK doors with either an empty RK or have no intention to get the Relics inside. As you said I wasn't even around when that happened. And I never said it was alright for others to do it, I just don't think that Albs saying that it was done to us a long time ago justifies that you do it now.


"Ever here the phrase, "Do onto others, as you would have them do onto you." ? I'm guessing no, since you seem to be saying that it's ok for hibs and mids, but not for albs. Key words there being SEEM TO BE. Gods forbid anything be taken out of context, or twisted to fit your 4 year old mind."


Do you really think your taking the doors down form the same people that did it to you? I don't think all those hibs that did it to back then are still around, maybe a few, but defenitly not all. You guys are doing it to different people, like I said, do you think all those Hibs that did it to Alb are still around for you to do it back to?


"Actually it's more like mids and albs telling hibs to stop whinning, because we've been on the recieving end of what we KNOW they are capable of. "


But things have changed, a lot, and yes Hibs do need to get their act together, they need Hib pride, and you've seen it just as much as I have, that when a realm has no relics they have no spirit. The stunt that Albs pulled did not help the situation imo.


Btw: Sorry, let if it sounds like I'm trying to flame you but I'm not, it just seems to be the nature of the boards ya know =/.

I did further explain that comment. Please read the entire post. The one area mythic itself can effect is to have characters a larger number of people want to play and can identify with. But there are more aspects to the game, the population of a realm has to be seen as an enjoyable place to send a few hours a day, just to point out one of many. After all there is a very large social aspect to this game.


Mavryek

50 Paladin