"TF and TK are great at 8v8 -- with ra's up. Otherwise they stay within help of the zerg, or at least another group. "


False for TK.


The TK gank group (Frec, Raiha, Eup, Arkkane, Lind, Dathan, Beib, Stand and the others one) hate when other group are following them or when another group(s) jump in their fights. And they stay in the battlefield when all ra's are used.

Gah, anty doesn't kill people, hes harmless, I am the one with the damage!@!


Huh anty!

I hate fighting whatever group Treya is in. She pulls off some crazy mezzes/roots.Phel to pull some roots please.

Plz xarrio, Maluv outdamages you.

 

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omg erelir did you see the zerg video? i did some crazy roots>< oh and /whine golden, you have roots to!

Don't know, I'd have to say I have mixed feelings on this. Basically LA will come in to make a fight a 3-way war if it's Hibs vs. Albs (without any Mids there). If there are Mids there, we will move away and let the fight go the way it should.


Free RP's seems to do the same.


TF I'm not going to get into. They simply don't. If they see a chance to leech RP's they'll go for it, I have not once seen them stop and turn the other way once. Recently TK has also been rushing in when already engaged, turning the tides of the fight.


Seems to me Albs have this mentality of "if there's only 1-2 albs left alive, it's ok to rush in". I don't see this as very true. Suppose a group is just done fighting, would it be fair to rush them - when the mezzers are A) Split apart, B) The group isn't stuck to the leader, C) The group is off killing the remaining 1-2 people, meaning they don't have speed song? I don't see the idea of a group being LOM as a huge reason for not rushing - because waiting 3 minutes for them to med up is just ridiculous. But imo you should at least give them a chance to stick up and get back in order.


Basically a 'clean' beginning for a fight would be - both groups stuck to their leader running at speed song, they spot eachother and it goes from there. Not: One group is all spread out and totally unprepared, while another rushes in and kills the unorganized group. Basically once you've engaged a group, you can't expect Healers (or Sorcs/Bards in Alb/Hib's case) to be in positions for mezzing. They're going to be in positions for healing, more along the lines of hidden and kiting. As far as I'm concerned, hitting a group while there's still people alive is still zerging and cheap.


I've seen TK turn around and avoid rushing in on a fight a total of twice. Respect for that, but then again I've also seen them hit us while we're mid-fight more than that. Granted it could be a number of things (misjudgement, for example) - but TK is the *only* group that I've ever seen back off from zerging.


The way I see it, there are 3 respectful non-zerging guilds (one in each realm). I suppose 4 if you'd like to add RoC (they've backed out from our fights plenty, and deserve recognition for it). The way Lancelot has been going zerg-wise, I feel these 3/4 guilds are the only things keeping this server unique from the other servers. Slowly Lance is becoming more and more zergish, and I fear eventually 8-man groups will not be able to function anymore. For this reason, I'd like to urge anyone who is against zerging to stand up for their principles in RvR. And if you are pro-zerg, there's nothing I can do about that.


fyi, I'd have to say TG's AMG campfests often tend to destroy RvR in Emain. Albs can't get past AMG, Mids can't find anything to kill. So basically Albs have to zerg to get past AMG, thus leaving Mids with an insufficient force to hit AMG yet again. So Phel, fix this thanks~


Basically in a server where 8-man groups are so popular, you shouldn't be needing to run anything more. There are imbalances from all 3 realms, ranging from SOS to gpurge to the Savage class. Zerging isn't a valid way to counter these imbalances. I'm not going to zerg TF just because they have SOS/BOF up, etc.


Also, nerf groups with 5 naturalists in them. I kill Phel an average of 3-4 times per battle.


-Anty

Thank god the master is telling us all this.


since when do realm points dictate how much knowledge you have about RvR?

 

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For those of you laying hate down on us, I didn't ask for your opinions in this thread, nor did I dictate to you how you should play. This is simply a discussion place for those who do like to 8v8, which you aren't among, so either add to the conversation intelligently (impossible for such as you, kellzz, as you don't have the 8v8 experience) or stfu.


Might be false for TK, but I never see them 8v8 unless their ra's are up -- otherwise it's always an add-on battle. I used to respect TK alot more, but to me, both TF and TK have been reduced to Released's level of rp whoring: running in mid battle to clean up everything else then beat chest like they accomplished something. Never seen a TK group run away from an ongoing fight -- something I've seen deleted, la and dox all do. Something I used to do but don't do anymore, simply because of the two aforementioned guilds always jumping ours. I've seen RoC leave a battle be. Not something I require or expect, yet I take insult when I hear you say one thing then see otherwise on the battlefield.


That being said, Frec is still the best mezzer in alb, and Treya is good whether or not she cheats. Have some good players in both groups/guilds (I know treya is AD, but never see her outside of a TF group), just hate that I never see them without others unless they are fully 'charged' up on ra's.


I've seen TF blow ra's when they add in battle, too. I guess SoS is necessary when bard beats you to mez and has both groups mezzed. BoF, too.

Solo chanter 4 life. Who needs groups?

 

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(impossible for such as you, kellzz, as you don't have the 8v8 experience)


pwnt

 

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