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To make a plug for Drakier, in various boards where he posts I find him to be calm and tend to look at the big picture, and willing to listen to others that make a logical argument. When we have looked for moderators of the Warcry boards, Drakier would be the type I would push to apply for the position.


Heck, I would make him moderator of the TPA forums on Warcry, he just has to let me know.

 

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"Bn_Kleenex: one word can sum up why I want to moderate here... passion.


I have a passion for development, utilities, and AC. I have pride in what I do, and I love to share my passion with others. While I may not always be the person to spoon feed people answers, I genuinely want to help.. I just would like helping a lot more if people seem dedicated to helping themselves... that's why."


Maybe you're trying to say something else Drakier and I'm just not gettng it, but your passion has ABSOTIVELY nothing to do with being a moderator; regardless of which definition you use. You can have those passions, and act of them as you described them here, and from personal experience, you have done so, without having to be a mod.


"It makes the community closer, but it leads towards moderators with a bias. In the past I've seen a few mods removed from their positions due to abusing their powers. Something thats unlikely to happen when theres no bias.


I much prefer mods who don't program."


Thank You ElGarL. That is actually the exact same vein that I was discussing with Tika, tho not in relation to this specific board or about programming (it was more in terms of being an FF server board mod).


"Bias is difficult to escape in general. "

Bias is not only hard to escape in general, IMO more important to the issue, bias is hard to prove or disprove. Actual bias, and perceived bias can lead to the same thing.


"To make a plug for Drakier, in various boards where he posts I find him to be calm and tend to look at the big picture, and willing to listen to others that make a logical argument. When we have looked for moderators of the Warcry boards, Drakier would be the type I would push to apply for the position. "


Again, has NOTHING to do with being a Mod here. He has done the exact same thing here without a Mod, and I hope will continue to do so... as a Mod or not.


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Is there something wrong with vested interest? It tends to make the community closer. No to the first question, but your second statement is an assumption. I've been to multiple boards, whether it be in different games on VN, or individually ran boards and the only ones I have seen where in there was some kind of close community were the ones where either the members or the topics were of fairly limited focus, and even then they are only better than general sites in terms of being closer to some extent.


IGN does have a vested interested in choosing moderators that encourage forum interaction, as it makes their ad hits go up. Again that's an assumption of outcome. You're assuming an outcome based on a situation that does not exist (VN boards with "active" moderators) comparing it to a situation that does exist and has existed for quite some time now. Do you actually think that no one has thought about that other than you, and if that that conclusion was valid that they not act on it?

I think an old saying is very apt for your statement. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

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My 2P,


If you are going to say that Drak should be a Mod because he is an actual programmer for Asheron's Call, then I would choose a person who is not so publically biased AGAINST Combat Macros (or FOR them for that matter).


If you are going to say that their bias against Combat Macros isn't a factor because they are mature enough to ignore their personal bias and apply the rules that they do not make up, only enforce, then I don't think that being a Programmer matters.

To the new Mods...Welcome


I wonder why a Developer would be better at removing words like <MODERATED> then a non-developer?


Nor can I see a reason that a Developer would be better at locking a thread then a non-developer...


On this board developers are better suited to answer some of the questions then non developers, but that happens anyway and is outside the Moderators duties...


In my opinion, if he wants to be a Mod here, Draiker would make a good one, not because he is a developer, but because he is level headed (most of the time), above average intelligence (remember, average is between 90 and 110 IQ) and has a good grasp on what words are good and what words are bad... that he has some small knowledge of programming and a familiarity with Decal and many of the Plug-ins used would just enhance what he did here.

Arch: Say what you will, UCM is still against the CoC. And it most likely always will be.


Anything that is against the AC CoC is against the Vault ToS, so it's kind of a moot point. My guess is you would rather have someone biased more closely to your own viewpoints, so you are allowed to continue your pro-UCM propaganda.


In all fairness, I'm less concerned about a Developer being a moderator than someone from the community that is this board. I would not mind Hamfast or such, but many of the big contributers are Trolls (Magi, Gouru, and myself) and most people stand a bit too far on one side of the fence.

 

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* i am not a progammer

* i dont want to be a programmer

* i make sure there are no violations of the ToS, which is entirely the job of a moderator, nothing else.

* i do not pick the moderators for the boards

* i volunteered to moderate this board as there was NO ONE ELSE a year ago, and have modded it ever since

* i do not have any choice in who moderates these boards

* moderators are picked by the managers, no one else, we have no say in the matter

* why are mod's getting dumped on for NOT being programmers??? it was never a prerequisite in a volunteers job!

* why am i getting aggravated over people baiting me?


PS - Hamfast - you said it best


It's really no big deal - Drak you can have this board if you'd like it, just clear it with the managers, i'll even train you

 

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I'm a Troll. It's my job to aggravate you. ;D


If I was not Above Average at Trolling I would not be a Troll with capitals.

 

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"Anything that is against the AC CoC is against the Vault ToS, so it's kind of a moot point. My guess is you would rather have someone biased more closely to your own viewpoints, so you are allowed to continue your pro-UCM propaganda.

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In all fairness, I'm less concerned about a Developer being a moderator than someone from the community that is this board. I would not mind Hamfast or such, but many of the big contributers are Trolls (Magi, Gouru, and myself) and most people stand a bit too far on one side of the fence."


Hazridi, I think you just proved Arch's point tho, and mine. Bottom line, it's better if the Mod is not involved in anyway to what the conversations are on the boards they are moderating. No involvement is better than someone who's on the fence or somone who's a mile away from it.

 

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Actually I carefully picked the words "Combat Macro" to prove a point. If I wanted to say "Unattended Combat Macro", I would have. There are some who can not, or refuse to draw the distinction between the two, and thus is the problem.


As for "your own viewpoints" and my "pro-UCM propaganda", you don't know me in the least, you only assume you do. I am against UCMing in dungeons. I would prefer that Turbine change the rules so that they allow UCMing outside, but until such time, I will not UCM, regardless of what you falsely beleive.


As for who is a Mod on this board, I honestly could care less, I don't frequent it enough. All I am saying is that whoever it is, they should apply the rules equally to everyone. Regardless if it is a person with 200 posts, or a troll with 45k posts, or a Developer with whatever number of posts. If you think a Developer > Troll > n00b and that one should be "cut more slack" than another, then you have no business being a Moderator on someone elses board.


Again, my 2P.





Yup.

i MUCH prefer modding this board,


quote: As for who is a Mod on this board, I honestly could care less, I don't frequent it enough. All I am saying is that whoever it is, they should apply the rules equally to everyone. Regardless if it is a person with 200 posts, or a troll with 45k posts, or a Developer with whatever number of posts. If you think a Developer > Troll > n00b and that one should be "cut more slack" than another, then you have no business being a Moderator on someone elses board.


I mod on frostfell, where i actively participate in the discussions, and know everyone. I cringe when a good friend swears or baits/attacks someone and i mod them. I dont like modding my friends. To be honest, i dont really know anyone personally from this board, so when i do have to mod someone for a violation, i dont feel so guilty


I do think it's a good idea NOT to be personally involved, there are no grudges held, there is no preferential treatment, there is no accusations of that, either LOL

 

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