I agree with Drakier and Hazridi. I started out as a "sysop" then a "wizop" back in the old days of CompuServe (H&R Block still owned CompuServe then). I was asked to be a sysop because of the technical knowledge I displayed with anti-virus products at the time, and then with Windows 95. We were there not only to moderator the forums, but to answer technical questions.


It would be good for this forum to have someone like that again. I think Drakier would excel at it.

 

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This is a community message board, not a developers board. We do not promote any plugin, nor IMO should the moderators be giving advice on technical matters. Thats what the "community" is for, to share information Otherwise - wouldn't it be called "AC Developers Board" ?

 

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Must bite lip on some of the comments made here.

What the hell are you talking about, Kestrina? This is as close to a development board as you can reasonably get without being one.

You have developers intacting with end-users on a daily basis on many of the threads.


This is the board for AC Utilities. It is not a board dedicated to support -- although that is what many of the threads end up becoming -- but rather a BROAD board covering the many aspects of AC Utilties, including development, which is why you can find many development and software engineering related posts on this forum. A good portion of this "community" as you refer to it ARE utility developers and almost everyone us a utility user. So why is it an unreasonable request to ask that at least one of the bloody moderators BE a developer?


Moderator attitude is reason I have left this board every single time I've chosen to delete it from my bookmarks and stop using it as one of my general 'freetime' sites that I glance over whenever I want a break from what I'm doing. If you truly want this board to thrive, you should consider Drak as a mod. I know how the VNBoards works, so I guess it's too much to ask that someone who isn't a human vacuum cleaner to the management be a moderator -- but can you really blame me for trying?

 

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"Moderator attitude is reason I have left this board every single time I've chosen to delete it from my bookmarks and stop using it as one of my general 'freetime' sites that I glance over whenever I want a break from what I'm doin"


Considering the number of your posts n the past week or so, I'd like to see how often you post when you are dedicating your time to this boards


"What the hell are you talking about, Kestrina? This is as close to a development board as you can reasonably get without being one.

You have developers intacting with end-users on a daily basis on many of the threads. "


"A good portion of this "community" as you refer to it ARE utility developers and almost everyone us a utility user. So why is it an unreasonable request to ask that at least one of the bloody moderators BE a developer? "


I think that is the "hell" that Kes is talking about AC Utilities is a COMMUNITY board for those particularly related to Utilities used in the game Asheron's Call; for prog devs and users to interact. IGN has no vested interest in what happens here other than that certain legal issues, and other non legality related issues, are observed. Mods' responsibility are limited to the extent of those interactions. E.g. Chako can can't continuously bait Ghouru with his moronic posts


Same thing for server boards. Nothing in the rules to say that the mods there have to play those servers. In fact in some other games I played, I dont think the mods even played the game, much less the servers they mod'ed. And IMO, and this is something I have actually discussed with Tika some time ago, server Mods should not participate in server related issues, or even those issues arising from server-player conflict.


On another track, directly towards Drak. Why even want to be a mod here? You already have your own site that you can mod to your heart's content This is true for other developers as well. Again, you guys have vested interest in your own programs. Tika and Kes as VN Mods do not, nor should they.

 

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Bn_Kleenex: one word can sum up why I want to moderate here... passion.


I have a passion for development, utilities, and AC. I have pride in what I do, and I love to share my passion with others. While I may not always be the person to spoon feed people answers, I genuinely want to help.. I just would like helping a lot more if people seem dedicated to helping themselves... that's why.

I've never understood the desire for impartiality. I greatly preferred having moderators on the server board who were involved with the community to having moderators who did not play or were from another server. Is there something wrong with vested interest? It tends to make the community closer. IGN does have a vested interested in choosing moderators that encourage forum interaction, as it makes their ad hits go up.


One of the reasons for my increased forum presence lately is the end of the semester. I have a lot of work that's due, which means a lot more procrastinating. Heh. I am also at the computer a lot more in general because of my increased schoolwork demands... when I have a choice, I tend to escape from the computer more.

 

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It makes the community closer, but it leads towards moderators with a bias. In the past I've seen a few mods removed from their positions due to abusing their powers. Something thats unlikely to happen when theres no bias.


I much prefer mods who don't program.

Bias is difficult to escape in general.


That's why I suggested Drak anyway, he is more just than I am.

 

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As my tagline once said ... "Bias makes the world go round, and Favortism is the grease that makes it run smooth."


As for "A Moderator of a Developer Board should be a Developer", I lump that statement in with "A Moderator of an Asheron's Call Board should play Asheron's Call" or "A Moderator of x should play or be x". Never has been the case, and doubtful will ever be the case.


I see the logic in the statement, but the reality is such that a Moderator doesn't have to make the posts nor do they make the rules, only enforce the rules that are in place, and you don't have to "be or play x" to do that.