crashing to desktop randomly, no errors are popping up. ac just turns off pretty much. decal is still up and running with no errors there either.


is anyone else having this issue? apparently no one on my server is

There are so many different things that can cause this that you have to keep track of what it is you're doing every time you crash. Write down what it is you were doing (the exact details are REALLY helpful) and when you have crashed a few more times, post them all, along with an export.

 

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it's a little hard becuase it ussually happens when i am buffbotting overnight or during the work day. i thought this might have been a tank el buff issue until i caught it a couple times.


the rare times i have caught this happening i had tank on decal but nothing was active, i merely spoke in gen chat a couple times and it went to windows. the other time i was in buffbot mode with no customers for awhile and just happened to look over and see it just go to windows.


when it goes to windows it looks like ac was minimized but it is no longer on the task bar and task manager doesn't show it running either. it just goes away as odd as that sounds.


i'll copy a export of my decal as soon as i get home from work

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.4.0


type, enabled, name, version, clsid

Plugins, 1, ELTank v2.6.0.20-Beta-6c, 2.6.0.20, {39E9E0F5-85D7-4C38-87D6-3BBCB853357E}

Plugins, 0, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.4.0, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}

Plugins, 0, TreeStats 2, 0.1.6.4, {9847B2B7-C7C7-42BA-9361-021D01715E8F}

Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.4.0, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}

Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.4.0, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}

Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.4.0, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}

Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.4.0, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}

Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.4.0, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}

Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.4.0, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}

Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.4.0, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}

Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.4.0, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}

Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.4.0, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}

Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.4.0, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}

Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}

Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}

Surrogates, -1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.4.0, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}

Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}

Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}

Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}

Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}

Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}

Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.4.0, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}


Operating System:

Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 4 (Build 2195)


[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic


Decal Settings

: Timer (Default)

[Portal Path] : C:\Program Files\Turbine\Asheron's Call - Throne of Destiny\

[Launcher App] : acclient.exe

: http://update.decaldev.com

[memlocs.xml] : 24464 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2711

[messages.xml] : 52004 bytes, Version 2006.01.01.1

[Video Memory] : 63766528


D3DX Libraries (Only d3dx9_27 is required)

[d3dx9_24.dll] : Not Installed

[d3dx9_25.dll] : Not Installed

[d3dx9_26.dll] : Not Installed

[d3dx9_27.dll] : Installed (9.8.299.0)


---Support Libraries ---

Note: The following libraries are not necessary for Decal to function and are only provided to be of use to plugin developers.


.NET Frameworks

[v1.0.3705] (1.0 Final) : Not Installed

[v1.1.4322] (1.1 Final) : Installed

[v2.0.50215] (2.0 Beta 2) : Not Installed

[v2.0.50727] (2.0 Final) : Installed


C++ Libraries

[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.96.90)

[atl70.dll] : Not Installed

[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed

[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed

[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)

[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)


Microsoft XML Libraries

[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.50.2162.0)

[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9818.0)


---Video Device Information---

[Device] : NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440

[Device Name] : \\.\DISPLAY2

[KeyDeviceID] : Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0171&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3

[KeyDeviceKey] : \REGISTRY\Machine\System\ControlSet001\Services\nv\Device0

[Manufacturer] : NVIDIA

[ChipType] : GeForce4 MX 440

[DACType] : Integrated RAMDAC

[Revision] :

[MemoryLocalised] : 64.0 MB

[MemoryEnglish] : 64.0 MB

[DisplayLocalised] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)

[DisplayEnglish] : 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)

[DisplayWidth] : 1024

[DisplayHeight] : 768

[DisplayBpp] : 32

[RefreshRate] : 70

[MonitorName] : Default Monitor

[MonitorMaxRes] :

[DriverName] : nv4_disp.dll

[DriverVersion] : 6.14.0010.5672

[DriverAttributes] : Final Retail

[DriverLangEnglish] : English

[DriverLangLocal] : English

[DriverDateEng] : 3/24/2004 10:04:00

[DriverDateLocal] : 3/24/2004 10:04:00

[DriverSize] : 4274560

[MiniVdd] : nv4_mini.sys

[MiniVddDateEng] : 3/24/2004 10:04:00

[MiniVddDateLocal] : 3/24/2004 10:04:00

[MiniVddSize] : 1895648

[Vdd] : n/a

[RenderWindow] : Yes

: No

[Debug] : No

[Signed] : No

[SignValid] : No

: {D7B71E3E-4231-11CF-9875-0A2002C2CB35}

[DDIVer] : 9

[DDIVerEng] : 9 (or higher)

[DDIVerLocal] : 9 (or higher)

: 0

[VendorID] : 0x10DE

[DeviceID] : 0x0171

[SubSystemID] : 0x00000000

[RevisionID] : 0x00A3

[WHQL Level] : 0

[NoHardware] : 0

[DDAccelEnabled] : Yes

[3DAccelExists] : Yes

[3DAccelEnabled] : Yes

[AGP Enabled] : Yes

[AGPExists] : No

[AGPExistsValid] : Yes

64MB is NOT a lot of video memory.. and ELTank is particular is a very large plugin that requires the usage of approximately 96MB of video memory (from what I've heard).


I'd be surprised if you were able to successfully and consistantly get decal and those plugins to work without crashing on that configuration.


bottom line.. with the current Decal requirements, 64MB of video memory is really just not enough.. even 96 is pushing it in most cases... I'd recommend at LEAST 128, and more likely 256 for "good" performance... but you also have to remember, Decal is Alpha, and is still due for a facelift and view change to make it better.

well thats unfortunate, i'm not upgrading my desktop just to run a buffbot


you sure thats the issue?

64MB is not much video memory at all, and Decal is a Video Memory hog, and it throws fits and takes it ball and goes home if there isn't enough.


I'm fairly certain that if decal runs out of video memory, it crashes... and hard. so I'd say I'm 90% sure that your problem is due to lack of Video Memory.


try turning down the resolution and details to get it to work better (or at all), but even then, 64MB is just not a lot.

i'll try lowering the resolution to see if that helps =\


thanks for the advise

try using castaway


I think thats a far better buffbot plugin anyways

 

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To keep the memory useage down, NEVER open the main ELTank GUI when buffbotting.


Be sure all your settings are right to start as a buffbot

Login (fresh)

press 'Pause' on your keyboard to start ELTank.


Dont open any GUI's.