1) who cares what Turbine thinks about plugins the player base develops -- 90% of what has been created could have been built directly into the client with ease and made the game more popular

2) while your idea is noble (I guess) you know as well as anyone that it will be fairly easy to create an add-on admin detect and everyone will have it within days, so ultimately what was the point

3) whether Turbine likes it or not UCM locations is one of very few things that DTers have to fight over -- its unfortunate that this has not been addressed but its been almost, what, 3-4 yrs since we have had something to fight over?


I think it is great that you are moving this plug-in along, I just wish that Turbine ummm...had a shorter list of priorities so some of the DT issues were addressed? hrm that safe?

 

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If you didn't UCM to 275 then multiple people under you did.


Either that or you have not left the computer for the past 7 months, literally.

 

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just say it how it is. you wish turbine would stop screwing over dt. well don't worry, we'll get another health quest and damage upgrade in no time.

 

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> so ultimately what was the point


The point is the integrity of the plugin, Taker.


> whether Turbine likes it or not UCM locations is one of very few things that DTers have to fight over -- its unfortunate that this has not been addressed but its been almost, what, 3-4 yrs since we have had something to fight over?


I'm very sympathetic of your problems. I play on DT sometimes, too. (Obviously, not as Paraduck. =P) However, I'd prefer to see a full solution, which is one that I've constantly been asking for. Rumor has it from PAX, though, that there will be some red PK improvements, such as red PKs dropping hookable trophies (i.e, Head of Underworld-Dreams.) I know it's not something to really fight over, but it's a start.

 

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I think you have lost all integrity. Don't tell me you guys didn't put out that plugin so that it would be carebear enough for everyone to use legitimately. I think once Elgar fell into that mentality your team basically took over and for some reason now your feeling the same pressure as he did. But that was how long ago when he did that. The game has died you can admit to that. This plugin has created a little bit of hope for the survival of the game and I would be willing to bet if this plugin goes in the can like Eltank did, you'll see it die even more.


Not that there aren't enough carebear people who have their particulair reasons for not using it but because a majority of people on all servers UCM to a point or degree.

 

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baiting

Paraduck: "The real solution to "catching up" should be vastly increasing quest XP rewards"


And the only remedy to that supposed solution until it is implemented is UCMing. The coders should have stood by the players and let them UCM until Turbine remedied the problem by adding quests which took the tedium out of leveling. They could have used allowing admin alert as leverage with Turbine or at the very least a holdout. At least UCMing was a way for players who wanted to level quickly get by, now we can do nothing but complain on deaf ears and blind eyes to Turbine. What El-Diablo said is true, without a means to more easily level and "catch up" to all the 200+ chars now, there really will be a negative impact on the amount of new players joining and old players returning. The motto for Turbine holds true, "Exploit early and often".

I'm a huge supporter of Orion's belief on how players should play the game -- in short, people should play the game in a manner that makes them happy. There's no one play style that's above any other.


Of course, Turbine does not support all play styles, one example being UCM. However, no change was made to prevent UCM. We don't advocate or support it, but the option is still there, and you're left to deal with whatever consequences come from your decisions. LT will no longer "save" you (or help save.)

 

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My 2cents...


Para, do you honestly believe that Turbine cares about UCM? I don't know what server you regularly play in, but if you were to visit Any EO everyday for 1 week, you'll see how much Turbine cares. I think I've seen Admins in Eo 4 times since February (when I first hunted there, with LTx).


Besides, why is a 3rd party app working with Turbine?


On a different note, for those who think this change to LTxi will actually do anything... errrr there's hadly been anything to detect before... so what if the detector is gone

 

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Agent-G, Turbine said that this is something they'll look at once the arc has ended. This appears to be the last month of the arc, so I'm hopeful that we'll start seeing these changes soon.

 

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