Ok, I just came back and prior to leaving. I had Eltank and a I believe a couple other things.

Eltank seemed to work for buffing just fine, and I think that's what I used for everyting. Finding random things, and alerting me to things on corpses etc.


But now seems everyone is using LifeTank. I hate it. I'm either way too confused as to why it's 'better' because , as it seems to me, it's just a rough product of something soon to come - that is not as good as ELTANK (but from what I hear, it's better for macroing) I know you can macro with eltank soooo what's the issue?


Is it because ElTank is done for now?


At any rate. I'm WAY too disorganized to be both of these things and still be able to play:

#1 A Mage

#2 A Mage that has to buff himself and organize his spell bars.


I never know what to use and when in PVP. I'm always changing my stuff and REALLY need at least 3 war bars and the next 2 buff other and etc bars...


So - what do YOU use? Is lifetank worth keeping with?


WTF is up with lifetankx buffing system? Says 46 buffs to go, then it goes to like 52 and starts over.

It doesn't save my settings. When I save a profile (assuming that's how you save the settings) it will reload the next time with a profile name I've never heard of or, just completely loads nothin but default.


opinions please? ty

My thoughts as to why more use lifetank are as follows.. please remember some no longer apply and are only my opinion


1) Lifetank has no restrictions on it, you can hit start and it just goes. Eltank will stop attcking in 5 minutes if there is no keyboard input.


2) Lifetank had an Envoy alarm until very recently. Eltank had one too I think, but its been gone a long long time.


3) For dungeon fellowships lifetank may have a slight edge with buffing. It will cast a few spells every couple minutes, keeping you buffed, Eltank does all the buffing at once when its time.


As for your question about the bugging, it is a little messed I believe, even according to the people currently working on it.


Though I can also tell you that once you start it, only use pause to stop unless your done for the day. Otherwise you will rebuff again.


People have been using lifetank for a long time, not just recently because Eltank is sunsetting.

I think more are now trying it so they can get used to it before Eltank no longer works.


I use ElTank 99% of the time. It is more configurable to my style of play, and includes just about everything else I need, except for DI predictor and alchemy/cooking.


Thinking about it ..


The main reason some prefer lifetank and others prefer eltank is that it was what they first used and got used to.


Again only my opinion though.

 

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No offense but I find this statement a little disturbing (hopefully I'm not the only one):


"At any rate. I'm WAY too disorganized to be both of these things and still be able to play:

#1 A Mage

#2 A Mage that has to buff himself and organize his spell bars."


IMO, You should learn how to play a mage BEFORE trying to figure out a plugin that will play a mage for you.

 

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Logan you comments are more disturbing than anything else written, you don't seem to list a mage in your player name/levels so probably you don't play a mage too much. The plugins help with a very tiresome character to play. Let Turbine create a 1 touch buff for creature and life as they did for item banes and maybe people would not need plungins as much. Painful joints are not fun from the constant tapping required to play a mage. But as you prefer Melee characters you already know that.

About the buffing issue...


I have a different kind of view:


Mage = got warmagic

Archer = got bow, xbow or TW spec'd

Melee = got melee weapon spec'd


Life, Creature and Item Schools are not Mage based these days.... Many classes got all 3 schools.


So Logan is in the discussion


Just my 2 cent.

I agree with Logan...


You should learn how to play a mage, before using a plugin to play the mage for you.


I liken this to Decal development... you should learn how to program before attempting to use Templates or other code helpers to do it for you. Using the template without knowing what you're doing is asking for trouble and creates a lot of problems for both the developer and the Decal devs later on down the road.


You shouldn't expect to be able to use those types of tools without first knowing how to do it yourself.

That is really funny the makers scolding the end-users hahaha


Let all the pure Blue bloods come out of the woodworks, this should be fun.


All the people that have everything for their characters not wanting other people to have that, isn't that pure ac1 double standards.


Even Turbine agrees that decal is useful for their very grinding game. Keep all your opinions to yourself if someone should or should not use a plugins. All you anti-plugin people are hogging these boards and none is interested in your dribbles.

I think you're misunderstanding the point.


the point is to make sure a player can actually PLAY the character they made without playing aides that play the game FOR THEM. That isn't to say Decal isn't beneficial or shouldn't be used. We're just saying that you should RELY on a plugin like LifeTank or ELTank to play FOR YOU because you don't know how to play the character yourself.

<< the point is to make sure a player can actually PLAY the character they made without playing aides that play the game FOR THEM. >>


I agree with that. Even when I started my mage I refused to use certain plugins that I used on other characters for a long time. I knew how to setup my spell bars for buffing and fighting, manage vitals, etc. I actually find fighting a bit more fun doing things myself, makes me focus more on what is going on around me.

 

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I don't see the point of making anyone suffer to do it all on their own, what is the point, what is the use.


Not fun = less subscriptions.