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Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
Title: Lore Master
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Registered: 2004-1-25 06:01:16
Falcon_of_Fury posted:

Alright, then. I contend that the locations database was never the intellectual property of whomever owned acspedia.com to begin with. The website offered an interface for anyone to post information and locations, it did not produce unique content on its own.

The content on Maggies and ACVault is not unique content produced on its own. Yet once someone creates by copying the information from Turbine's software it is now the property of Maggies or ACVault. You can not just go copying this information.


Falcon_of_Fury posted:

I don't think anyone who posted on acspedia.com or the older clarkzoo site intended anyone to hold the information back from any AC player. There was never any agreement on the site that players couldn't redistribute the locations database. It wouldn't make any sense.

You making an invalid assumption. The location database belongs to acspedia. US Federal law automatically makes it the property of the ACspedia. It does not matter what the original submitters intent was. It matters only what the intent of the acspedia database owner is which is automatically no redistribution by Federal law unless otherwise stated.


I can not speak offically for CoD. I certainly had opportunities as ACVault site manager to discuss the issue of information copying from one web site to another. I am confident that CoD uses the same rules ACVault does. All content has to be original submitted information. It can not copied or resubmitted from another site without the permission of the site owner.


This was a periodic problem when I was working on the databases or as site manager of ACvault where content from other sites ended up on ACvault without permission. I always hated this. Take it down. Grovel. Beg for forgiveness. I hate making a big public mistake.


This is the problem CoD faces. It is easy enough to spend the energy to copy all that stuff. You spend time and energy copying.


Then you wait for all heck to break loose. If all heck occurs, then you may have to spend time and energy taking it back out. Plus you have to grovel and be for forgiveness. No doubt the folks that run ACwarcry have folks further up the chain who will privately cane them for doing something stupid if anything goes wrong.
_Rascal_  2 stars
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The Acspedia web page basically said the data was freely available for any to use as they saw fit.
Hexxor_TD
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There are two ways to get the data into a new plugin or merge the data


1. ask for permission to use previous data.

2. start from scratch.


There is no copyright on someone writing their own version of a sequence of events to accomplish something done in the same manner. You can not take it word for word, but you can re-write it and redescribe it from your own experience. You just can not cut and paste it.
_Rascal_  2 stars
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Permission has already been granted.
Hexxor_TD
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moot question then
MT_Gouru  3 stars
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I've been considering adding a feature to Find It!, or creating a new plugin, that automatically creates a database of lots of things, portals, signs, npc's etc.


It probably wouldn't have a public 'comments' section, though it would be able to keep comments locally. If somebody was interested in reviewing comments before they go into a central database to keep the garbage out, then saving those could be done as well.


Only real issue I've come across so far is determining 'temporary' portals, and a good way of doing portals inside dungeons.
Maddy_ACEDL  3 stars
Posts: 785
Registered: 2000-2-23 15:06:37
<< Well, I humbly request that you let us add comments. >>


Not my decision, if it was it wouldn't happen. One of the worse things about the AC Spedia (my opinion) were the comments.

 

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_Rascal_  2 stars
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Some entries are almost useless without comments, e.g. Umbral Halls subway. It's very nice to know which way to go for a specific portal.
Falcon_of_Fury
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I nominate myself to read comments and approve them. It sounds like a great idea for a plugin.


I loved the AC Spedia comments. I used to read them for hours on end when I first installed AC Explorer.
_Rascal_  2 stars
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Hey Digero! You know you wanna do this as part of Go Arrow

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