I know this isn't the COD boards, but those boards are kinda dead. I was wondering if it was possible to submit information to the COD locations database. I looked all over the site, but I couldn't find the submission form.


It's a pity that the ACSpedia database is dead. Why don't they merge it with the COD database?

And you think we don't watch the WCoD boards? Post there and you'll get a reply if needed.


You can use the feedback form: http://ac.warcry.com/index.php3?content=feedback

Just select Atlas and Maps for the subject, or even post in the Atlas and Maps section.

 

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Can we use that submission form to add comments to a location that already exists? Does someone have to approve the comment before it gets added?

You can't add comments, you can submit them and then the person in charge can decide to use them or not.

 

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Well, I humbly request that you let us add comments. I also request that you merge in the ACspedia database with your own.

This would only be possible if the ACspedia database owner gave written permission to CoD


Crossroads, ACVault and Maggies can not be copying from other websites because the information belongs to the site owner.

But if the owner can no longer be located, and the website no longer found, surely any rights he has are forfeit.

If I was still site manager to ACVault, I would kick the question of rights up to IGN legal.


Ownership and copyrights do not go away if something is no longer available publically. Or can not locate the owner. Or the owner ignores you.


IIRC - The copyright lasts until 70 years after the owner dies. I do not recall there any requirements on the storage medium or distribution method. So toilet paper, hand written on human skin, typed on paper, stored in a computer, microfiche, or anything else you can think of is acceptable.


Sometimes copyrights are king of annoying. The Boy Scouts used to sing Happy Birthday at scout meetings. It has not been 70 years since the author died and the rights belong to Sony? You have to pay for the right to perform music in group setting like a Boy Scout meeting. The cost is based on the number of performances and the size of the audience. The Boy Scouts got sued when my son was a scout and settled out of court.


It is something to remember. If you go to a bar and sing for Karokee night. You are probably breaking the law.

Alright, then. I contend that the locations database was never the intellectual property of whomever owned acspedia.com to begin with. The website offered an interface for anyone to post information and locations, it did not produce unique content on its own. I don't think anyone who posted on acspedia.com or the older clarkzoo site intended anyone to hold the information back from any AC player. There was never any agreement on the site that players couldn't redistribute the locations database. It wouldn't make any sense.

This sounds like a great opportunity for a new plugin!

Start out with the old Acspedia locations and if CoD allows it, merge their data, too.

Only allow submissions from within the plugin to avoid spammers.


edit: The wayback machine entry for Acspedia says the goal was to "easily make that data available for download by whatever utilities [that] wish to make use of it."


http://web.archive.org/web/20050406174322/www.acspedia.com/about.htm#plans


It sure sounds like Geomancers wish was to let anyone use the data. Not only that, he wanted to see a decal plugin to submit entries.