why would they upgrade your access? especially if they knew you're the kind of backstabbing person to take anything personal like that and spread it all over the boards?


(not saying what you're sayin is or is not true, but it just seems odd is all)

Because I was friends with one.

I never ever got a chance to make use of the envoy alert, and with the auth servers access changed, as well as my lacking a need for the alert, Why should it be kept what a secret? Read all the dev's posts on the issue and you will see how strongly they were about not having this kind of feature in lifetank.


Even if it wasn't current, which last I checked 1 version is pretty current, c'relic posted that this such thing is against the decal CoE.

http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx?topic=98656636&brd=5432&start=98667026

"So, let people write their admin detection. Again, it isn't that difficult, but that would be against Decal's CoE so good luck with that."


Paraduck said he doesn't know about it, meaning he couldn't have removed it between the 11.7.0.1 to .2 versions. I posted screenshots from the .1 version. Well since the only way to get Detection XI is being exempt from the restrictions on lifetank, via the lifetank IG auth, that means that Lifetank is in violation of the Decal CoE as by what C'relic has previously said.


Nice.


edit: BTW, I've been banned from use of lifetank because of revealing this, some threat Detection XI is if

Paraduck: "..there is no admin detection in Lifetank. "

such hippos

 

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this is old new guys, I stated this months again when they took over the project.

 

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of course, but no one had the proof like this


also Lil bub stated this before you also

 

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Lets compare an account with the auth and one without. See if you notice a difference.


Account without special auth aka access to detection xi:

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] Core.Terminate

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] [Engine] IEngine_Terminate - start

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.671] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - Start

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] << ERROR >> [Engine] clsAdmin_Terminate - Object variable or With block variable not set

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- Begin

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- End

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - End


Account with special auth aka detection xi:

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] Core.Terminate

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] [Engine] IEngine_Terminate - start

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.703] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - Start

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMain.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.781] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMacro.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIBuffs.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMonsters.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIIrc.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIMsgLog.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIOptions.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UIAntiBan.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- Begin

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] UILoot.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] PluginInterface.Unload() -- End

[02/22/2007 16:55:59.796] [Engine] DeleteEngineObjects - End


You see the difference, it's in the account without special auth.

[02/15/2007 16:35:52.765] << ERROR >> [Engine] clsAdmin_Terminate - Object variable or With block variable not set


That's because it tries to terminate, or end, the admin detection when it logs out, just like it ends very other process. Since it isn't running, you don't have access to admin detect, it can't be terminated, and there's an error. See how that error message is gone when you log out with access to Detection XI and have it running?


yeah, doesn't exist... right...

I got this error:


151-223-202-222-202-202-220-217-198-155-142-149-228-203-222-216-218-208-213-128-129-200-195-229-206-181-173-161-136-214-189-199-221-183-216-213-218-21 0-213-205-160-116-174-221-194-216-219-207-209-161-136-182-181-196-207-192-227-149-140-188-204-218-234-185-211-168-116-205-206-222-205-200-214-232-189- 207-211


what do i do?

 

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There was a problem with auth server 1, which has been corrected. Either relog, or type "/lt auth server 1".

 

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I'm not sure why any of this comes as a shock to anyone...


None of this matters. Decal code of ethics? LOL Lets hack some software, and then drum up some ethics that people need to abide by when using it...


Solid logic.

wow quren... way to misrepresent the truth


It wasn't about maliciously hacking software. It was about exploration and making things better. The whole point behind the Code of Ethics was to create an environment that wasn't abusive to the game, and wasn't going to impact the game in a negative way through unfair advantage.


And you can't talk about "hacking" as if it's all the same. The original devs were not being malicious in their intent. Without people like the original devs pushing the limits and the status quo, technology would remain stagnant. The 3rd party scene in other games is like it is BECAUSE of Decal in many cases. Many games see what Decal provided to Asheron's Call and felt it would be in their best interest to implement their own controllable version instead.


There is such a thing as Ethical Hacking as much of an oxymoron as it sounds. It's called being smart, polite, and knowing the boundaries and not stepping over them. Something that unfortunately a LOT of developers these days know nothing about.