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Author Topic: To The Creators/Coders Of Lifetank...... (Fix this please) [Locked]
Churi-ya  2 stars
Posts: 278
Registered: 2002-7-9 03:42:57
I wouldn't mind seeing eltank come back either, but the ammount of groveling this community would have to do to make that happen.... hahah, most definately not worth it.

 

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just put up another couple thousand dollars.
Didikillit
Posts: 20
Registered: 2003-6-21 23:10:30
Lifetank has it's limitations.


A live player should be able to spot them and compensate manually.


I preferred Eltank, but I am also very grateful to the lifetank devs for both spending their time on the plugin and providing it free to the rest of us.


I think this guys problem is simple, after buffing he gets whacked while in mid wand-weapon change. I notice this a lot on archer too, it's the fraction of time between having either a wand or a weapon wielded that he gets hit, once either is wielded there is no problem. I don't think the no shield wielded is a problem (unless he has a very important major on it), it's the inbetween time of wand-weapon. That's a turbine issue not lifetank.


My advice?


Recall to top of dung or some other safe spot to buff and then return to the hunt.

 

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Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
Title: Lore Master
Posts: 235
Registered: 2004-1-25 06:01:16
Migy_AC posted:

Yula- "The basic problem is that your character is too weak."


Its late and I'm tired, can you please show me where the OP says anything about their character other than being a melee?

Read the first part of his post again A melee... when going from wand to weapon gets hit alot. Why not make the melee pull a shield FIRST then freakin heal himself. By the time he gets out of magic mode he is left with like 1/2 health or less... then tried to heal in peace mode and gets hit even more...


What this post says is that he takes a lot of damage which switching from a wand to a melee weapon and a shield. This is a fundamental part of the design of the game, you are penalized for this. If you are fighting close to the capability of your character, you can not make this switch safely. You will die. You need a stronger better equipped character to get away with this activity.


It is the same thing with switching to peace mode to heal. The game design will penalize you for this. If you are fighting near the limits of your character, you are going to get torn up.


If you are playing AC and are not aware of the penalties imposes for certain actions, you better learn them. Or you are going to die a lot. This isn't a Lifetank issue. It is even hard to do this manually.


The other night, I was just not thinking. I am life spec. I was in POTB. All the lugians are rock throwers my bad luck. I drop my shield and equip a wand. Cast a gossamer flesh on one of the Lugians. I would just equip my sword then my shield. Zig Zag down. Stab the Lugian twice. Dead Lugian. Zig Zag away. Heal. Get out my wand do it again.


Well I should have dodged the rocks when I had my wand out. Instead I was stupid. I decided to equip my sword and then my shield while standing still. Just forget how long it takes to get shield out. Six rocks later from the first volley, I am at the lifestone going. Yula you are so dumb.


Bottom line is that the OP does not seem to understand some of the basic rules of AC.

1) If you are hurt real bad - healing isn't going to help you. Use trade healing elixers or rations. This is the way healing is designed.


2) It takes a long time to switch from wand to melee weapon and shield.

a) During this time you can not dodge war spells or rocks. You are going to get hit more.

b) You are missing one layer of protection without your shield. You are going to take additional damage from melee and missile hits.

c) You will take a penalty to your defensive skills. You will get hit more often in melee. Missile defense isn't generally a problem. You do not evade much anyway.
Yula_the_Mighty  1 star
Title: Lore Master
Posts: 235
Registered: 2004-1-25 06:01:16
There are some things you can do about the healing issue. You have to run tests to figure out how much health you can lose and still have healing work.


There are blue kits and the toilet paper ones (renegades) that boost your skill. You can adjust the sliders. You can use restoratives - rations and potions. In all cases, you have to spend some time setting everything up. If you try to use the default setting in Lifetank with a treated healing kit. You are liable to get killed.


Sorry about being a little snotty here. I meet lifetank users who do not how AC works. Lifetank plays their character. They do not. So everything that goes wrong is a programming bug in lifetank. When in reality, they failed to tune lifetank to work correctly for this particular character.


Not all options are safe for all situations and characters. Lifetank is great, it lets you do pretty much anything that the AC software allows. It will let you kill yourself, if you are not careful too. Just like Yula did with his brillant idea to gossamer flesh a Lugian while hunting manually.


I looked at the idea of. I am a melee with a melee weapon and shield out. I am going to equip a wand to heal. Go back to melee weapon and shield. Then try to heal with a healing kit when my health is too low for my healing skill and kit type. I had trouble with restraining myself from writing. Are you insane? Eat something or get a better healing kit. Or better still change the options in lifetank.
Migy_AC  1 star
Title: Speaker of Fluent Typo
Posts: 62
Registered: 2002-1-12 22:56:32
I agree that there are certain rules of the game you need to be aware of, and if your not, then you better learn them fast. I don't agree you need a stronger better equipped character to be able to do certain things in game.


Yula's example of PoTB works. It wasn't the character not being strong enough, it was just something small that was overlooked. A small adjustment, and things were back on track.


Now, if the OP had just asked for help, one of us could have probably solved his problem in less time than we have spent debating semantics.

 

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Registered: 2004-8-22 09:02:58
I know what Kabs is trying to say.


After you get done doing your buffs, LTX takes your wand and replaces it with the melee weapon. You're getting hit right? Your health drops below the threshold, before you have the shield out. So it is trying to heal you before the shield is ever out. Generally at this point, you hit a critical threshold and the wand comes back out. Sometimes you can get stuck in a loop here, until your stam/mana etc deminish to a pointwhere its hard to recover.


If there was a way to delay the heal check until the shield was pulled, I think that might help out.


Goodluck

 

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