Your beef is with Turbine, not us.

http://ac.turbinegames.com/

 

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I dont have a problem with turbine at all..they've basically given up doing the whole "anti-ucm" thing except when people report others. You're actually trying to re-establish the whole movement and get more attention than it really deserves imo.

 

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And you did your part, through admitted UCMing, to help destroy the game.


What's your point?

UCMing was inevitable..I mean honestly, to be able to compete in this game you need to be high level...i don't want to sit in an olthoi dungeon and kill the same mob..over..and over..and over.. again.


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If they truly wanted to end UCM'ing and all programs like that they would have done so when the game actually had a decent playerbase.


too late now.

 

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And you really think the discussion would be any different than it is now? I don't think anything would've been different... no different than asking if everyone wants admin alarm removed. It would've resulted in a flamefest, with us being the bad guys, blahblahblah.


I said somewhere else before... most people here don't care about Turbine or the community as a whole, they only care about themselves. If what we change doesn't help, improve, or give an advantage to themselves as an individual, then they're going to be loud mouthed and fight it til they're blue in the face.


What "everyone" really wants is an unrestricted plugin that will let them macro and alert to their hearts content. At that point, Turbine would have to enforce the rules on their own (which "Everyone" knows doesn't happen and would get away with it), and I'd assume Decal would ban it immediately.


So what's the point here? It's more of a risk to UCM, that's our point. What's your's? I'm trying to understand here.


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Don't get me wrong, I completely disagree with their actions. I feel they won't accomplish what they intend them to, and also feel that UCMing is a very important part of the health of Asheron's Call, especially Darktide.


I also think that Turbine is starting to go in the right direction in terms of creating content that does not cater to the macroing community. The graveyard and coll are two elements that move towards creating an alternate form of advancement.


However, I think they are completely entitled to this move. I am sure they receive plenty of pressure from the anti-macro community, and if this helps them dodge even some of that, good for them. They have zero, none, zip responsibility for providing AC players with worry-free UCMing opportunities.

 

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Atleast the community would respect you. It was fine before this, now you made a mistake and you still have time to redeem yourself.





How does implementing this solve anything, honestly? Turbine chose to make UCM'ing illegal, and they knew they would be fighting a never-ending war.

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As for the SW and ACTool comments: Show one example of running ACTool/SW in conjunction with Lifetank that would not break the rules, ours or Turbines. Spamming /ct doesn't count Honestly, the only reasons I see for running those tools with LT is just to run scripts for alarms. I know they're used for tradebots/tinkerbots, and that's fine.. but not while LT is running as well.

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You didnt read the thread that much did you? cause you would have seen it..


I used to start up my macro, load up AC-Tool and try to understand why the Tinking Cap script does what it does, how it was coded, ect ect since hes been under my GFs and my control on FF. JUST incase it breaks and I have to try, key word try, to fix it. Now because of your " new rules" you put in, I cannot do this anymore. SO you tell me.. Do you really think I am going to enjoy doing this, while I dont have something else to do? answer is a simple no, im not a code jokey, I hate writing code ( been there done that with real early code) and wouldnt be doing it if I wasnt running tinking cap for the benifit of the server. I have my own maxed/auged tinker thanks to some friends on my account.


alarms are not ( last time I checked ) against turbines CoC.. Which lets face facts, is the important coc here. You changing stuff has made my playtime/experience with AC gone in the crapper. I dont UCM, but lets face facts.. its not your job to police AC.. If someone wants to UCM, they take the chance of getting caught by the ppl whos job it is TO police the game.

 

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agreed .. the alarms are in no way against the CoC, as if you are AFK (out of the house) you won't even hear it unless you have some sort of baby monitor hooked up near your comp..which if you do you deserve to be banned anyways

 

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I think it's a dumb move but since I know nothing about programming there's nothing I can do about it. All I can foresee in the coming months is plugins being released that will log you out which will then subsequently be banned by Para. If I can't UCM I will most definitely quit AC as it's pointless being less than level 180 on DT and manual hunting lost it's appeal long ago. If you are really serious about being anti UCM I don't know why you took over the plugin in the first place. This plugin was purely designed for UCM and it's too bad Spk decided to stop development.

 

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