Okay so what you want me to do?


Add a feature that requires people to log out when they die when using the plugin?


That doesn't seem fair at all to the average player, who is using LT to assist them, then bam, they die, and now they logout, and lose their spot in the fellow. Doesn't sound too fair to me.


To solve your problem, don't fellow with people who UCM? Or, instead, fellow with people you know, and do rotations. That's what we do in EO and PoTB. We have different sleeping rotations, and leader rotations.

 

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Same as it ever was!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same as it ever was"""""""""""""

Its turbine's problem to police & ban not Lifetank's Dev.

Put it to rest and leave it there for heaven sakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have recently had the problem where too many people were at the LS for 2-36 hours in an EO fellow. It is a pain to remake the fellow but it can be done--sometimes. It always amazing me the number of "AFK" peeps who suddenly become "Alive" when the fellow is disbanded and a new one is made and they want back in.


The problem with "Log on death" is that it DOES affect alot of peeps who ACM, and should not be automatic unless the user is AFK.


While it would be nice to be in a fellow that respects each other, be realistic--that's not going to happen in AC. Live leaders are accidently DC'ed and "Leader" is pasded to someone who is AFK. It happens all too frequently. Plus there are just the rude people who intentionally don't care if they die and sit at the LS for however long, just so long as they know they can get right back in the fellow.


I would like to see this: LT receives your death message. It pops up a message box to confirm you are there. It waits for 15 minutes to see if you are active and reply. After 15 minutes with no reply, it logs you out. NO checkbox option for this.


People who are live won't be bother by this, except to click an OK/Yes button one time.


This has NOTHING to do with UCM enforcement, since the dead AFK pperson is at the LS now and is not receiving XP anyway. It is about helping ALL of the people in the fellow to get the XP they are suppose to, and to possibly allow for new people to join the fellow.


Just my opinion...

 

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By adding any automated features on death they are showing that the macro, or atleast part of the macro, is geared specifically for UCMers, and if they add it they can no longer have a stance of lifetank being an anti-UCM, but still an automated combat, plugin. Lifetank automates repetative tasks-killing, looting, salvaging, buffing, etc-anything else is too simple and has such a low occurence that the only reason of having it is so that it's done while unattended.


Sure a forced log on death feature is for saving your fellow's xp, but unless the fellow leader is unattended as well, then that shouldn't be an issue. Adding a forced log on death, any feature on death for that matter, is just encouraging UCMing more because the user knows that if they die and the macro stops hunting, it will just log out and it won't be an issue. If somebody dies, the fellow will know about it. They deal with it by booting, or they stop fellowing that person the next time. If somebody is known for UCMing and having their macros dying, destroying fellow XP, then they aren't going to be recruited into fellows now are they? Then they won't be able to get XP at all from a fellow. If the leader of the fellow is unattended when something like this happens, then you need to let people know to not join fellows where that person is the leader. Give attended players leader. It shouldn't have to be a macros responsibillity to deal with an issue that the leader of a fellow should be dealing with.


Don't recruit people who sit at ls when they die. Don't recruit fellow leaders or join the fellows of people who sit unattended when there are issues they should be taking care of. Spread the names of people like this around the server. They're going to think again before they UCM so carelessly if you make them suffer the consequences of their actions. Don't give in to careless UCMers and you won't have to deal with dead macros ruining XP.


You're just being greedy and selfish if you're ok with something wrong as long as it benifits you. It's your own fault. Stop helping UCMers by sharing your XP with them and they will stop UCMing so much if they want the full benefits of a fellow. Stop going into fellows full of UCMers and a UCM leader just so you can get more xp, if you're not ok with a chance of a dead UCM at the LS. You're just being greedy. Either accept people UCMing and deal with the consequences, or don't put yourself in a situation with them in the first place. Sure you can't control everything everybody does, but you can get a lot more done than you think.

 

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I find it kind of funny that the only person on this thread that made a pretty good point, is the one who is banned from using Lifetak.


Good post Eps

 

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eps best anti ucmer in ac

 

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"Buy my XP so you don't have to violate the ToS"

 

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you mean CoC

 

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